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To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (2113)	6/26/2002 11:16:33 AM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5130

I don't see how the Germans can beat them, this German team went way to far than it should have>>>> That is one of the problem with too many teams in WC, element of lack is way too high of a factor...No to take anything away from Korea or USA but Germany did not have to play top teams untill the final...And anyone can win one game...

To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (2113)	6/26/2002 11:30:58 AM
From: Loki	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5130

George....Interesting comparison between Argentina 1990 and Germany 2002.. Argentina had more talent, some good players were nearing end of career, and they underachieved. Germay is overachieving and has many young less experienced players....who happen to be very tenacious. (also a multitude of midfield injuries) Your prediction of the result will probably be close. Kahn will probably not be at fault for the goals. History of 17 International Games - Germany (3 Wins), Brazil (10 Wins), (4 Ties). Germany (18 Goals), Brazil (31 Goals). One should remember though that there are over 100 countries who would gladly have their team finish second in the World Cup. One should, even if reluctantly, give credit for their achievement. I don't agree on the yellow to Ballack. He went after the ball. The replay showed that. It was however a foul. Further amazing is the fact that of the 15 Finals, Brazil and Germany have been in 12, yet never met until the 16th Final. Loki

To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (2113)	6/26/2002 11:37:36 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell	Respond to of 5130

Prediction for Final: Brazil-Germany 3-1 With Germany seeing: a) how Brazil held back against Turkey b) how Brazil will be at full strength offensively c) how Brazil pushes the pace and scores goals d) how Germany doesn't score many goals e) how Germany's only goal scorer in the last two games is out I see Germany thinking defense defense defense, which, combined with Kahn in net won't make for more than two goals against them, IMO. They might catch Brazil too far forward and score a goal, but I predict 2-0 Brazil (FWIW). - Jeff