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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (12833)	6/27/2002 7:25:27 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 28931

One absurdity leads to another...... >>Should this Federal Appeals court’s ruling be up held it would mean that every piece of paper money and every coin bearing the inscription "In God We Trust"—would have to be recalled and replacements issued. This would constitute a logistical challenge of incredible proportion – or else another atheist might suggest considering all offending money as counterfeit. One absurdity leads to another.>> Dean certainly has a point! A well rounded discussion of the actual facts based in truth behind the financial underpinnings of this "man bless and serve this ONE World Nation State religion" would certainly be welcome!! I would welcome such a discussion from from those who profess themselves to be "atheists" as well as those who profess themselves to be ultraconservative right wing Bible Beating religious warriors, including everyONE (1) in between. Who knows, atheists "..might suggest considering all offending money as counterfeit." And, as Dean suggests "..one absurdity leads to another." So lets uncork, expose and lay out all the hidden cards. Is there an unexposed "hidden agenda" behind the use of the phrase "In God We Trust?" Since the institution of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, 89 years ago this coming December 23rd, perhaps the use of this phrase has been simply been a fraud. After all, what is this fiat funny "money" based on anyway? Certainly NOT anything of any lasting store of value that can be coined, weighed, exchanged or measured. So what actually is behind the fiat funny money we use today? 2-3 cents worth of paper and ink? An costless electronic book entry in a computer? Debt? And who has the power to charge interest AT NO RISK - otherwise known as "usery" - to others less fortunate? Where did this power originate? And why was it delegated - ie. given up - to others who don't represent us and who can't be elected? Was the delegation of this power Constitutional? Isn't this power really the collective sacred trust of individuals? Dean certainly has a point: "One absurdity leads to another." 1) "In Man We Trust" ...or.... 2) "In God we Trust" That's what this all is boiling down to. Mankind versus God. The God of Mankind versus the God of Creation. As Yogi Berra once said "if you see a fork in the road, take it!" It's time for everyone to "take the fork" - ONE (1) or the other and run with it. Man or God. Does our existence comes from man? Do our natural rights and freedoms come from Man? Or does our existance come from God? Or do our natural rights and freedoms come from God? It certainly looks like we've come to this fork in the road where the illusion of mankind's lies coming from the God(s) of this world is competing for the time, trust and energy of mankind's worship against the simple truths behind our one Lord God in Heaven's energy, light and love for mankind. Peace and God Bless!! 119293!!

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (12833)	6/27/2002 10:29:50 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

In 1954 in a bone to southern segregationists at the time of the first school integrations the congress broke apart the phrase "one nation indivisible" which was the essence of the pledge of allegance. The descendants of former confederates no longer had to swear to the preservation of the union. Breaking it up with a religious reference was just a sucessful ploy to cloud the actual issue with an emotional furor. TP