To: average joe who wrote (51954 ) 6/27/2002 5:32:25 PM From: epicure Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 Show me where you get the literacy rates for the dark ages. I'm fascinated that women had higher literacy then men since Monasteries outnumbered convents, according to one book I have, and religious men and women were among the most educated. I can't WAIT to see your data for this!!! I do hope you will post it soon. note the reference in this to "clerics" (ahem- males one would assume for the most part-cler·ic Pronunciation Key (klrk) n. A member of the clergy. [Late Latin clricus. See clerk.] Word History: Cleric, clerk, and clark all come from Latin clricus, “a man in a religious order, a man in holy orders.” Cleric appears in Old English about 975 and lasts into the 13th century. Clerc appears in late Old English, around 1129, and was identical in spelling and pronunciation with Old French clerc, “belonging to the (Christian) clergy.” In the Middle Ages the clergy were the only literate class and were often employed as scribes, secretaries, or notaries. By about 1200 clerc had acquired the meaning “pupil, scholar,” as we see in Chaucer's “clerk of Oxenford” in The Canterbury Tales (around 1386). Clerks were also of necessity employed in keeping accounts and recording business transactions; this is the source of the modern sense of clerk. By the early 17th century, the word clerk had become completely ambiguous; it could refer equally to a clergyman or to an accountant. For this reason cleric (spelled Clericke and with its modern pronunciation) was introduced or reintroduced from Latin or Greek as both a noun and an adjective to refer specifically to a member of the clergy. The pronunciation (klärk), spelled clark and clerk, arose in the south of England during the 15th century and is today the Received Pronunciation of clerk in the United Kingdom. The modern American pronunciation (klûrk) more closely represents the older pronunciation. The pronunciation (klärk) is used in the United States only in the proper name Clark. The south England sound change responsible for the pronunciation (klärk) also gave rise to parson (beside person), varsity (beside university), and even varmint (beside vermin).)croatianmall.com look under language technology in this lecture- they speak of professional poets (almost never women, and a Church monopoly on literacy- you are aware, with your vast knowledge, that is was an abomination for women to touch certain books, or even be IN scriptorium in many cases. You are aware of this, yes?)