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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (15921)6/30/2002 9:11:10 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 21057
 
"The Pledge doesn't include the words "BUY GENERAL MOTORS AUTOMOBILES!" either. Does that mean it or the US is against GM?"

You seem to be under the misconception that I want these two words in the pledge, or for people to be forced to say them when they recite the pledge. Last week, I provided an explanation of why I think it is stupid to coerce any one to make a declaration of faith. See the link.

Message 17672259

Pledging allegiance is not a declaration of faith, it is stating a commitment to support an entity and in this case the things the entity stands for. If no one had a problem with us being united as one under the ether and whatever is beyond, I would say enter that as a replacement. The simple purpose is to indicate a united stand under all that is contained in the area above and around us. There are religious people like me who are very comfortable with it being under God. The conflict comes when some of us (not me personally) see taking the statement out to be something of an attempt to invalidate our position in favor of another one. So, from that perspective it becomes alarming to some.

Does the United States stand as one nation under it all (what ever "it all" is) or not? The problem is that you cannot take the word "God" out and replace it with "it all" as a resolution to the problem. The same problem exists only from another perspective. You can't take the two words out and not replace them or you lose the concept, of being united as one in the midst of everything.