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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (20)6/29/2002 1:34:14 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 867
 
Hello Maurice, <<Where's the best place for my stash now? ... have a good look first.>>

Yes, take a look at Zimbabwe and its platinum, recognized all over the world, highly liquid, and fungible as well, just like the USD, and so much simpler than the Q-currency.

There is much that Zimbabwe have to learn from the US. Like, just today, I ran across this method whereby inflation can be raise, productivity lowered, international capital driven off, taxes raised, and employment lowered, all at the same stroke of the pen. This is a good follow-up step to steel tariffs and such, and generally very bullish:

news.ft.com

Overseas companies face huge US tax bills
By Edward Alden in Washington
Published: June 28 2002 20:37 | Last Updated: June 28 2002 20:37


Plans to force overseas-owned companies with American subsidiaries to pay billions of dollars in additional tax have been drawn up in the US in the hope of legislation being passed next month.

The move is in response to a World Trade Organisation ruling this year - following a European Union complaint - that the US must end a $4bn tax break for its exporters.

Bill Thomas, chairman of the House of Representatives ways and means committee, responsible for tax laws, said on Friday he wanted to end the tax advantages of overseas companies such as Daimler-Chrysler.

An array of benefits would go. The biggest is the "earnings stripping" provision allowing American subsidiaries to deduct from their US taxable income most interest payments to an overseas parent.

Corporate taxes on overseas companies would increase by an estimated $25bn-$50bn over 10 years.

Similar proposals have been endorsed by the Bush administration. The plans' prospects in the Democratic-controlled Senate are uncertain, but the Senate finance committee recently passed some tax legislation that overlaps with other elements of the Thomas bill.

The EU claimed in the WTO case that the so-called foreign sales corporation scheme was an unfair subsidy to US companies. The US could face punitive trade sanctions from the EU this year if the scheme is not dismantled.

European companies, the biggest foreign investors in the US, would be hit hardest by the Thomas plan.

Mr Thomas said he did not want to discourage overseas companies from investing in the US but "we just don't want them coming into this country with an advantage over US-owned companies". His proposal would "create a tax system which does not punish being a US-owned company".

In addition to raising taxes on overseas companies, the plan offers an array of tax breaks to US companies to offset the loss of the FSC scheme.

These include a more favourable allocation of interest expenses and an end to rules that force some US companies to pay taxes on overseas earnings before the profits are repatriated to the US.

The Senate finance committee has approved a bill to bar US companies from relocating in offshore tax havens such as Bermuda to gain tax benefits. House Democrats are demanding a floor vote on a similar bill.

But Mr Thomas said such a narrow approach would not tackle the underlying tax disadvantages faced by US-owned companies that lead some to seek tax homes abroad.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (20)6/29/2002 8:00:15 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 867
 
Hi Maurice, <<Capital was mistreated by the irrationally exuberant paying far too much for something based totally on their own misjudgement. The chickens have come home to roost>>

Yes, and other chickens some times choose to leave the scene altogether ...

news.ft.com

Investing in an age of deception
By Deborah Hargreaves
Published: June 28 2002 19:53 | Last Updated: June 28 2002 19:53

Bill McClean runs four investment portfolios - for himself, his wife, his son and a family trust - but he has recently sold most of his shares and is holding on to the cash. The events at WorldCom may have occurred thousands of miles from his home in Stirling, Scotland, but they have shocked him nonetheless. "Investing [is] very difficult if you don't know where to turn to get a truthful assessment of a company."

Around the world, many private investors with share port- folios have similar concerns. The discovery this week of a large hole in WorldCom's accounts is the final proof for many that it is time to quit a fragile market.

"Lots of people are running for the hills, putting their money in the bank and saying there's no way they'll ever touch another share again," says David Hanratty, director of investment planning at Nelson Money Managers in Chester. "Of course, these are the same people who will probably be piling back into the market again in two years when it's gone back up."

It is the apparent simplicity of the alleged fraud at WorldCom and the failure of auditors to spot it that has had such an impact on private investors. "They didn't really understand what was going on at Enron - but now this is so clear, it has really hit people," says Mr Hanratty. A few sophisticated investors will view the current market downturn as a good buying opportunity but they are in a minority.

Mr McClean, a pensioner who runs the website for the Scottish Shareholders' Association, says many of his fellow investors were already concerned about standards of corporate governance. He is looking for an opportunity to get back into the market but the latest corporate scandals have put him off buying shares in large companies. "It means I look askance at what people say and try to read between the lines . . . with smaller companies you get the chance to meet the management and judge whether they are telling the truth."

He is not alone: many investors wonder whether they can trust financial statements from US companies. The feeling is so widespread that an increasing number of fund managers and analysts believe private investors may stay away from the US market for some time.

Bill Miller, a US fund manager who runs the $11bn (£7.2bn) Legg Mason Value Trust, believes the next bull market will be postponed until US regulators can improve the financial integrity of corporate accounts.

Per Lindberg, telecommunications analyst at Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein, expressed surprise at the effect WorldCom had on European investors this week, when telecoms share prices plunged: "If anything it should have been good, because another competitor has gone. But investors are so risk-averse at the moment."

Other investors are shunning equities altogether. Having been buffeted by volatile share prices and falling markets over the past two years, many have been playing it safe and putting their money into fixed income investments. But those with corporate bond funds will have seen their returns suffer recently as the fall- out from WorldCom led to a drop in global bond markets.

Financial advisers now report renewed interest in almost risk-free assets such as government bonds held to maturity. They say investors are happy to miss out on any potential equity premium as long as they can sleep at night. But private investors often make the mistake of buying assets that are rising rapidly in price rather than those that have fallen. "The lay investor is the classic lemming. I'm afraid he's caught along on the crest of a wave in markets," says John Turton, head of financial planning at Bestinvest, the financial adviser. "When stock markets are high, people throw money at equities at exactly the wrong time - and now there is panic selling."

Many advisers recommend buying now when prices are low - but private investors cannot expect to be able to time the bottom of the market exactly. "It still requires a longer-term belief," says Mr Turton. "If you stick money in now and it goes down again next week, you shouldn't throw up your hands and say it's all gone terribly wrong."

d4 That is the problem for many individuals who already feel it has all gone terribly wrong. This is because they have been hit by a double whammy - their equity-based investments have tumbled and so has the value of their pensions.

An increasing number of people are saving in pensions where pay-outs are dependent on investment returns where they shoulder all of the risk. These pension funds are heavily invested in equities and will be affected by any fall in markets. Employers could also be prompted by the market downturn to close more final-salary pension schemes, which are expensive to run.

"It means employees should put more money into their pensions quickly if they are scared by the markets and maybe consider something different, like corporate bonds or commercial property," says Mr Turton.

Investors have turned increasingly to property - mainly residential - in recent years. This has been a safe haven for those disaffected with falling stock markets. Borrowing for buy-to-let has surged as investors have built a property portfolio instead of a pension or share investments. But recent warnings suggest these people could be the first hit by any fall in house prices - a factor that has increased nervousness.

In fact, Bob Leonard, director at Advisory and Brokerage Services, a London-based financial adviser, says the WorldCom crisis has come at a bad time.

"Confidence was just starting to return among private investors . . . Now this creates yet another air of uncertainty that we could well do without."



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (20)6/29/2002 8:04:07 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 867
 
Hi Maurice, ... and take their capital elsewhere, where they are more respected and less litigated ...

chron.com

... and do not need airlift of steel ...

quote.bloomberg.com

I imagine airlifting steel is not terribly productive and not wonderfully efficient.

Chugs, Jay