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Politics : The Palestinian Hoax -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: lorne who wrote (172)7/3/2002 3:32:20 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 3467
 
>>Hello Allen. You said...." I have checked out history. Your statements are not accurate. Ancient Palestine encompassed a large area that included everything from Upper Galilee to well south of Gaza. The Philistines lived farther south than that. Jerusalem, Bethlehem and Nazareth were all located in the central area of Palestine known as Galilee during Jesus' time.

Jesus was born in Palestine.".......

Would you care to share where you got the above information as IMO it is not even close to being accurate.

The Philistines lived in the area that to day is Gaza.<<

Lorne -

I had to come back here, after doing some further research, to admit that I had it wrong. You were correct in stating that Palestine was named that after the death of Christ.

When Christ was born, the Romans called the area Judaea, which actually comprised three districts; Galilee, Samaria, and Judaea. The Philistines did indeed live in what is now known as the Gaza strip, just as you said.

It was after the Bar Kochba revolt, which a scholar I know places around 170AD) that the Romans re-named what they had called Judaea, using the Romanized version of Philisitine, Palestine.

I apologize for my mistake, which was based on a reading of an ancient map. Not quite ancient enough, it turns out.

I do still maintain that the history doesn't really give the Israelis a better claim on the land than the Palestinians have. By Palestinians, I mean all the people who were born there between 170AD and 1948AD, as well as the many people who choose to identify themselves as Palestinians even though they were born in a place now called Israel, or were born elsewhere and moved to what they consider to be Palestine.

If we use the logic that since the Jews were kicked out of Israel by the Romans in the second century AD, they are the rightful occupants of that land, then aren't the American Indians the rightful owners of the territory we call the United States? By that logic, don't the aborigines have a legitimate claim on Australia and Tasmania? Should the Maori own all of New Zealand?

- Allen

PS: As my scholar friend pointed out, the Bible says that Abraham was born in Ur, which is now part of Iraq. He moved into a territory that was inhabited by the Canaanites and the Perizzites, referred to in Genesis as the land of Canaan.