To: Bear Down who wrote (10108 ) 6/30/2002 2:51:14 AM From: Edscharp Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 19428 Bear Down, The ridicule was your remark, "Now go fix that broken toilet in unit 420" . None of your posts today were intended as arguments. All were intended as insults. Like I told north 40 earlier if that's the best you can do I have little to worry. It is of course pointless to respond to your insults, but you won't be getting rid of me either. I'll post here as I please and there is really nothing much you can do about it. I enjoy my give and takes with Mary as well. I'm sure she and I will continue to have additional opportunities to discuss the wide world of short trading on many of these message boards. Bear Down, my best guess is that Steve is using you to maintain the sanctity of his personal little board as he himself has been mysteriously indisposed ever since the Elgindy arrest. Can't imagine why. I will leave you all this evening with one parting observation. As amazing as it seems, even to me, Mary is actually on the right track. She is making a vain effort to legitimize and sanitize the sullied reputations of short-traders. It's not that this can't be done, it just can't be done with the associates that she is stuck with. For those of you who survive this Elgindy mess, one thing will eventually become crystal clear to you. Clean up your approach to short-trading or risk increasing government controls in this arena. There is nothing wrong with short trading per se, but if the bashing is planned in concert with other associates and misinformation is willfully disseminated on message boards and the ruling mindset is to engage everyday shareholders with hostility then I don't think it will be a huge leap for government to view any misinformation conveyed to investors by any enterprise, corporate or otherwise, as a conspiracy to de-fraud. It's not difficult to see similarities between this and some boiler room operations except that the misinformation is conveyed on websites and message boards instead of telephones. The few smart ones among you already see this coming. ALL IN MY OPINION, OF COURSE. Regards, Ed p.s. Bear Down, start running in squares instead. You'll never understand the concept of pi anyway.