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To: Constant Reader who wrote (16171)	6/30/2002 8:35:33 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

People are free to not pledge allegiance to their country, and some like using the subterfuge of objecting to the reference rather than admit their real reason. I'm sure that's true, people having all sorts of hidden agendas, but it doesn't have anything to do with the discussion we're having here so I don't know why you mentioned it. (I know you made clear it wasn't about anyone here.) You prefer to pretend that it was and is all or nothing. I'm not positive what you mean by "all or nothing." That I am saying that children who are led in the Pledge think you are supposed to say the whole thing? Yes, I think they do, if that's what you mean, and I know they can just move their lips or seal them then, too. They can even ask to stand out in the hall. As to whether saying the solemn Pledge of Allegiance including the words, about the nation to which you are pledging allegiance, "under God," is a "prayer" or not, you are surely right that in that citation of God's place over our nation, nothing is asked for, though much is assumed, of course. A clever child would surely understand that and not feel he or she were participating in a prayer, but merely in an affirmation of the religiousness of his or her nation. I think it was a mistake to put the words campaigned for by the Knights of Columbus into a Pledge of Allegiance to a country that is equally the country of all of us; and also that it was a mistake to make an issue of it. I'm only talking about it because it's the topic of the day, and that's my opinion. I'm not agitating for anything.