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Politics : The Palestinian Hoax -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: skinowski who wrote (256)	6/30/2002 2:30:43 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3467

skinowski, Re: You use pretty strong and disagreeable language. My words are meant to shock. Too many people have been lulled by propaganda to accept the legitimacy of the Israeli regime. It is anything but. Re: are you are talking here about the West bank, or about Israel’s right to exist in the Mideast in general. What I think hardly matters. But for the record, I'm in favor of the solution proposed recently by the Saudis. Acceptance of Israel's existence, in exchange for the elimination of all illegal settlements. Boundaries to be as they were in 1966. Re: your stance is infinitely more extreme than that of the Arab League and Prince Abdullah. The Arab League have presented a reasonable compromise position. I'll go along with it. Though my preference would be to have the State of Israel moved to somewhere in Florida...... -Ray

To: skinowski who wrote (256)	6/30/2002 5:24:00 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3467

The Palestinian Saga counterpunch.com "The right of return to Palestine after a long gap may have had some semblance of justness if all the Jews of today were the direct descendants of those who were forced to emigrate from there over 1900 years ago. But that is surely not the case. Of the total Jewish population the world over, direct descendants of the expelled Jews would constitute but a tiny fraction. A slightly larger fraction would be of mixed decent, while the overwhelming majority would consist of those who are Jews by religion but having anthropologically no connection whatsoever with the Jews expelled from Palestine. This is because there have been conversions to Judaism of large numbers whose earliest forefathers were nowhere near Palestine. After their dispersal from Palestine the thing common to all Jews was only their religion. If religion should be the yardstick for deciding nationality, all Christians across the globe should also have the right to make Palestine their home as Christianity too originated there! Mahatma Gandhi saw through the fallacy of this tenuous claim of the Zionists and was of the opinion that: "The nobler course would be to insist on a just treatment of the Jews wherever they are born and bred. The Jews born in France are French in precisely the same sense that Christians born in France are French. If Jews have no home but Palestine, will they relish the idea of being forced to leave the other parts of the world in which they are settled? Or do they want a double home where they can remain at will? This cry for the national home affords a colourable justification for the German expulsion of the Jews."