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To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/1/2002 3:48:09 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
the USGovt should hire Scotland Yard to prosecute cases / jw



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/1/2002 3:59:31 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
<<Not only is this administration managing the enron situation, I believe they managed the last election, with the assistance of governor bro Bush. This is a very dangerous group we have at the helm.>>

Scott: Unfortunately, I think you may be right...The more I read the more upset I get. Time to go back to work...Hope things are going well on 'The Western Front'...=)

regards,

-Scott@letskeepaskingthetoughquestions.com



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/1/2002 6:18:13 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Is Kenny Boy Being Shielded From Justice...??

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<<...Look at the way the investigation was handled. While Ebbers assets have been frozen, Lay is to this day free to move his assets off-shore as he pleases. Unless I've missed some news, and I do pay attention. And look at the remarkably slack way that the DoJ approached the sequestering of evidence last fall after Enron restated. The DoJ didn't lift a finger until Enron and Andersen had months to shred documents, erase hard drives and re-write history. It is a scandal in itself how the DoJ was complicit in the obstruction of justice!...>>



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/1/2002 7:51:29 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 89467
 
Scott,

Re: Not only is this administration managing the enron situation, I believe they managed the last election,

It's much worse than that. They're also managing al Qaeda.

Remember the Kunduz airlift? All the al Qaeda operatives who were flown out, and there were thousands of them, got re-deployed, most to Jammu-Kashmir to foment nuclear war terror threats....

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Re: This is a very dangerous group we have at the helm.

We are closer to being transformed into a police state than at any time in the nation's history. And all for the sake of greed and profit.

-Ray



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/1/2002 7:55:39 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
ENRON | DYNCORP | BUSH, INC. | PROMIS

scott,

One of the key links in the social network that protects Ken Lay from prosecution is a shadowy type named Herbert "Pug" Winokur. He's got a fascinating bio:

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onlinejournal.com



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/1/2002 9:32:10 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
A time of reflection

msnbc.com



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/2/2002 2:10:15 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
A peek inside Dick Cheney's personal diary: Cakewalking through the political minefields

Satire By Bernard Weiner

onlinejournal.com

<<...I think we'll be OK, if we can get through the next few months. Then, sometime before the November elections, there probably will be—in fact, I'd say we can pretty much guarantee it—another terrorist attack on the U.S. mainland. (Along with our own attack on Iraq.) And, guess what? We're the war party, going after the bastards, Bush looks good, the GOP candidates grab onto the coattails and we're back in power in Congress, and those Democrats go back to their caves and have to figure out another way of getting us in 2004. But, guess what? The war on terrorism will still be playing, and we'll still be the ones in charge. Hot damn, this is fun!...>>



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/2/2002 3:52:01 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
The Emperor of Ice Cream Melts Down

by Richard Cummings
June 28, 2002

One hears it everywhere. It is inevitable that the draft is going to come back. Across the political spectrum, the clamor for more military personnel grows as America’s commitments around the world broaden and deepen. And the reason for this is that George Tenet and Donald Rumsfeld have missed everything and now find the need to put more Americans in the line of fire to make up for their blunders, as the invasion of Iraq looms on the horizon.

On June 26, Al Qaeda fighters, with the assistance of Pakistani tribesmen, killed ten Pakistani soldiers in western Pakistan, opening up what is now the most serious front in the world. Al Qaeda outsmarted Tenet and Rumsfeld by slipping many of its troops into Pakistan, while forcing the United States to commit thousands of its troops in Afghanistan, necessitating a draft to keep the global war going. Osama bin Laden, if he is still alive, or his top aides, know this will eventually not wash with the American public and that there will be a backlash. The still-affluent Americans, whose main concern is where their sons and daughters will go to college, will start to become vocal once Trevor and Courtney will be destined, not to Duke or Dartmouth, but to a jungle in the Philippines.

What Al Qaeda is plotting is the overthrow of Musharraf in Pakistan, where anti-American sentiment is boiling over and where it has serious allies amongst the Islamic Pakistani generals and the SIS, the Pakistani intelligence service. If they can pull this off, they will have free reign in Pakistan, hardly the same thing as Afghanistan. They will have control over nuclear weapons and a gigantic, well-equipped army, air force, and submarine fleet. From this vantage point, they can take Saudi Arabia, and it will be checkmate. This was the old Soviet strategy it was never able to implement. How ironic if a bunch of terrorists who were created under the watchful eye of the CIA to defeat the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, pulls it off now! If Al Qaeda succeeds in taking Pakistan, India will have to invade, making nuclear war a distinct possibility. In such a scenario, India, with a huge Moslem population, will disintegrate, with Kashmir and other provinces seceding in rebellion.

Bush fell into the trap with his demand that the Palestinians oust Arafat, announcing that he will withhold aid unless they follow his orders. It is precisely what Al Qaeda wanted to hear. "The only emperor is the emperor of ice cream," American poet Wallace Stevens wrote prophetically, envisioning a time when America, led by someone like Bush, would rule the world. Bush is now "the emperor of ice cream," and he is melting down. As the stock market plunges with each new disclosure of fraud and corruption in the private sector and the federal government paralyzed with GPI (General Paralysis of the Insane), Americans may finally wake up to reality. The libertarian message is "What is our interest in all of this?" Who was it that said, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel?"
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Richard Cummings is a member of AFIO (Association of Former Intelligence Officers) and served with the Office of General Counsel, U.S.A.I.D., Near East South Asia region, with responsibility for the legal affairs of the AID program in Israel, Jordan, Pakistan and Afghanistan. A graduate of Princeton and Columbia Law School, he holds the Ph.D. in Social and Political Sciences from Cambridge University and is the author of the forthcoming novel, The Immortalists.

lewrockwell.com



To: Mannie who wrote (1048)7/3/2002 3:56:30 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Bush And The Corporate Crime Wave

Part of the Solution or Problem?

dailyenron.com

File Under "Takes One to Know One."
JUNE 27: Yesterday the foxes assured Americans that they are hot on the trail of those missing chickens.

As the markets reeled on the news of the WorldCom fraud, President Bush promised his administration would be all over the case like a Brooks Brothers suit.

But his assurances rang hollow to journalists who spent the 1980s and 1990s covering the private lives of citizens George Bush, Jeb Bush and Dick Cheney. Today public records brim with evidence that when these men were in business themselves, their ethics and behavior left much to be desired.

Like the Enrons, WorldComs and Global Crossings of today, the details of each man's business deals take some explaining. But here's a brief sampler and - if your appetite is sufficiently whetted - a web address you can follow for "the rest of the story":

In 1990 George W. Bush, then an officer of publicly traded Harken Energy, drew a large salary and received large loans that were later forgiven, even though the company itself was losing money.
In 1990 George W. Bush pulled a Martha Stewart, selling his stock in the Texas oil company on insider information regarding the company's negative financial condition.
In the 1980s Jeb Bush earned "commissions" lobbying Health and Human Services (HHS) on behalf of a now fugitive Cuban businessman who provided Medicare services throughout south Florida. HHS says that, thanks to Jeb's lobbying efforts during his father's term as Vice President, the fellow was able to cheat Medicare out of an estimated $1 billion before he fled the country.
In the mid-1980s Jeb Bush partnered in a Housing and Urban Development (HUD) real estate project with a man accused of defrauding a Texas savings and loan out of $500,000 as well as drug smuggling and running guns.
Also in the 1980s Jeb Bush and another partner borrowed $4.56 million from Broward Federal Savings and Loan and defaulted on the loan. After negotiations with federal regulators Jeb and his partner were allowed to wipe the slate clean by paying back $500,000 and sticking taxpayers with the $4 million unpaid balance.


( You can read the gory details on the above transactions - and others - online at: motherjones.com )
As for Vice President Dick Cheney, he served as CEO of construction giant Halliburton from 1995 to 2000. During the final two years of his tenure there he teamed up with the company's outside accounting firm, Arthur Andersen, to develop an accounting alchemy able to covert hot air to income that included such tactics as counting bills Halliburton's customers were refusing to pay as money in the bank. Now those Cheney-inspired methods are under SEC investigation.

President Bush was asked about the WorldCom news yesterday while seated beside British Prime Minister Tony Blair for a photo-op. With a deer-in-the-headlights, expressionless gaze, Bush looked through the glare of the Kleeg lights and, in an unemotional monotone, tried to assure shell-shocked investors that his administration would get to the bottom of this epidemic of corporate fraud and corruption.

Maybe while the SEC is looking into Martha Stewart they can pull their file on Bush's 1990 sale of Harken Energy stock as well. The two deals have a lot in common.

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There Really is No Honor Among Crooks
John Gotti learned that fact the hard way when Sonny The Bull, his closest partner in crime, turned against him once the heat was on. Now, Arthur Andersen's former audit clients are getting the Sonny the Bull treatment from their old auditor-in-crime.
When news broke that WorldCom had misled investors to the tune of nearly $4 billion, Andersen rushed out to proclaim its innocence. Andersen, which was WorldCom's auditors until two months ago, pointed the finger of blame on its client.

The accounting firm - already found guilty in criminal court for destroying Enron documents - said it had nothing to do with the WorldCom mess. The accounting firm, whose job it was to discover accounting trickery at public companies, said that WorldCom executives had lied to them. LIED! - can you imagine? (As if Arthur Andersen would not recognize a lie if it saw one.)

Now, the fun begins. With nothing left to lose, both Andersen and WorldCom insiders can be expected to flood prosecutors' phone lines with offers of information in return for leniency.

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Quote of the Day
"…With the Bush administration, the sinful synchronicity of business and government is just a day's work, and nobody is reeling from the spectacle."

-Maureen Dowd