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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: jlallen who wrote (52357)7/5/2002 4:04:25 PM
From: E  Respond to of 82486
 
You may contemptuously dismiss the deep and sincere feelings of the millions of atheists and agnostics, including many of those who have died for our country, who feel a slight sense of irony about "one nation indivisible" appearing in the same pledge in which the words "under God" were inserted after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, but those feelings exist. They're real. When I say the Pledge of Allegiance and get to "under God" I sometimes say the words, thinking at that moment, Okay, they have me pledging allegiance to an explicitly religious nation, how odd but so be it; and sometimes I remember to be quiet for part of the Pledge. (Why should I have to be silent for part of our Pledge? It feels very... divisive, to me. Isn't it supposed to be the exact opposite? About us being "indivisible"? Doesn't it seem ironical that some are told to be quiet during the "one nation indivisible" pledge? LOL!)

But whichever I do, say the words or not, I feel "out" of the Pledge. I still say it, though.

I assume neither you nor anyone else believes that the meaning of the McCain patriotism story, its affectingness and emotion, would be any different if the heroic incident described had taken place before the Pledge had had a religious reference inserted in it. Maried didn't respond to that question

I assume that everyone knows that the enemy had their God, too; but they didn't have our Constitution.



To: jlallen who wrote (52357)7/5/2002 4:31:44 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
So don't say those two words when you recite it....
So don't put them in then.

Two little words???
If it were really just about two little unimportant words, the Christians wouldn't be raising Hell about their excision, would they?