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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: maried. who wrote (52396)	7/5/2002 6:09:12 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

Because they say that all the time. Good God back atcha. I thought there was a whole new paradigm out there that I had never heard of. Most disconcerting. My poor brain has had to deal with too many paradigm shifts in the last year already. Thank you for sparing me this one. The range of perspectives on this issue is already plenty broad enough. :)

To: maried. who wrote (52396)	7/5/2002 7:14:03 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

Well, let's get real. EVERYTHING is mere belief. That you exist is mere belief. That thunder exists is mere belief. That there is a sun, an earth, a moon, are mere belief. Do Quarks exist? Nobody has ever seen one. We know them only by the traces they leave. Just like God. So it's probably fair for you to say that, like it or not, God exists because all you are meaning by that is that you are as satisfied that God exists as you are that trees, sun, moon, sky, automobiles, computers, all exist. It could be that none of them exist, and that this is all a giant dream that we will all wake up from to find outselves back in our world that has no sun, nor moon, nor stars, nor earth, not interstate highways. So don't let people dissuade you from using the language you are comfortable with. What's wrong is not your saying that God exists as an absolute fact, but rather X making a distinction between the existence of raindrops and that of God, since one's belief in the existence of either one is just a matter of belief and the interpretation of what one believes one perceives.

To: maried. who wrote (52396)	7/5/2002 7:39:56 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

. I'll retract. I believe it is a fact that there is a greater force than you and me whomever he/she is. Greater force(s) we've agreed upon. Lots of them. The question is, what is(are) its (their) nature -- I mean, what is the nature of the one you feel should be worshipped and prayed to. (Presumably you do, I'm extrapolating....) I believe it is a fact that it is just plain silly to refer to it or them as a "he/she." Do you literally believe it has a gender? Or other human (or animal-biology) attributes? You never replied about whether atheists can be heroes, too, like the McCain story soldier.