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To: Jdaasoc who wrote (91855)	7/5/2002 9:50:37 PM
From: vampire	Respond to of 99280

true and even more absurd (though fans insist upon it) to compare players to Ruth and Gehrig and Johnson (Walter) et al when they didn't play against ANY black players and didn't have to play at night AND the field, gloves, etc were of far less quality

To: Jdaasoc who wrote (91855)	7/6/2002 12:09:07 AM
From: stockid	Respond to of 99280

This is so truee. In yesteryear they would keep the starter in. Now, they have middlemen, set up men, closers. You see three or four different pictures in one game. SK

To: Jdaasoc who wrote (91855)	7/6/2002 7:50:39 AM
From: LTK007	Respond to of 99280

Ted Williams, with ROIDS would be hitting over 80 home runs a year. aj is right, baseball has become the most artificially enhanced athletes in pro -sports. Pro-Football at least has made a rigorous attempt at getting steroids out of the game. But in baseball the use of steroids is rampant, and has been for years, these are not pure athletes, they are artificially enhanced athletes and i consider baseball now at the most inferior level than at anytime in its history because of it.At least now that people like Conseco are letting the secret out maybe people will realize what is going on. Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson , Roberto Clemente, Mickey Mantle(bad legs and booze included), Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Frank Robinson(who if you dusted him with a fast ball the next pitch he would put in the bleachers, no one more fearlessly crowded the plate better than Frank!) are , in my mind. the greater players in a greater age of baseball. Baseball doesn't have a fraction the personality and pure game aspect now that it had then. The other aspect, there has been great deal of dilution in talent , there are quite a few pitchers and players today in the majors that would never have made the majors. Give me the real baseball with real athletes, when some of the best drank too much and smoked too much(and in this take care of your body it's worth many millions of dollars,day and age, would be a lot more careful about preserving it:), and like even played on but one or two teams in their career. Now it has become merely who will buy the championship, with "legendary" teams like the Florida Marlins and Arizona DiamondBacks going from nowhere to champions by simply BUYING a team. The year Sammy Sosa went from a 30s home runs to 60 homeruns you know was the year he was turned onto Roids. I think baseball is an endangered sport, it doesn't have the magic and public passion and the being an intergal part of the american life as in the "old days". But like i say, if you haven't lived it , you don't know what we are talkin about:). Back when radio had a sport that was magic on a radio, no sport sounded so great as baseball announced by the truly great announcers of another era. Baseball ain't nothing like it used to be, and Pro Football was that other sport . Baseball now is that other sport that fills the gap before the NFL starts. Max