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To: LTK007 who wrote (91888)	7/6/2002 10:59:21 AM
From: High-Tech East	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

<<I do not believe you represent New England in general>> ... I try to be representative of myself only ... ... if a survey were taken here, Orr might finish behind Williams because of his injury shortened career ... but then, that's part of why we love Bobby ... he left so much undone ... ... fans respected, appreciated and admired Williams ... Bobby Orr was/is loved ... there is a big difference ... ... as hockey's best player then, and the on-and-off-the ice Bruins leader, Orr brought the Stanley Cup back to Boston (in 1970, when Bobby was 22) after almost 30 years in Montreal, Detroit, Toronto and Chicago ... with Orr, the Bruins went from chumps to champs in 4 years ... winning the "Cup" twice, in 1970 and 1972 ... Orr scored the deciding goal (one in overtime) in both championship final games ... ... the Williams Red Sox made the World Series once (and lost) ... ... personally, I would rate Orr and Bill Russell ahead of Williams ... great team players, great athletes, great champions and great humans ... Williams was a great athlete, did more than his share in the military and did fabulous things with "The Jimmy Fund" ... he was not a great team player or a great champion ... and he was certainly not loved by most Boston sports fans because he was not a superior person ... arrogant with the fans (and spitting at them), fighting with the press and never settling in New England ... Williams was no hero to me ... Bobby Orr - that's the ticket ... Ken Wilson ... I saw Williams, Russell and Orr play many times in person ... when it came to emotion, passion, excitement and love ... Bobby Orr was the man ...

To: LTK007 who wrote (91888)	7/6/2002 1:47:17 PM
From: vampire	Respond to of 99280

<<occasionally tempestuous >> I'm sure now with his passing, a lot of the past will be swept under the rug, but the fact is his relationship with the media and fans was always "fragile" to say the least...and I think the fact theey use phrases like the one above is the most they are willing to say now (since it would seem in poor taste to attack him now that his image has improved since retirement. He was the best pure hitter ever though from what i hear (and that's all he ever wanted to be known as)