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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (270685)7/6/2002 6:48:51 PM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
You mean like Ted Turner? Larry Ellison? Pathetic.

One kind believes that many people helped them along the way to make money so they share the wealth and credit with those that worked for them. They believe that each individual has an important role to play in the success of a company.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (270685)7/6/2002 7:09:38 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
One kind believes that many people helped them along the way to make money so they share the wealth and credit with those that worked for them

Evidently that is not your Squirrlywood types, as Rosie Odonnel called a bunch of her rich Democrat friends and asked them to give a million bucks to 9/11.....but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way, they say, they will only go on tv and make some poor schmuck give HIS money at their tearful request.....



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (270685)7/7/2002 2:14:10 PM
From: bonnuss_in_austin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Great post, Pat. Thx! Have you seen this yet?

Frank Rich | All the President's Enrons
truthout.org

All the President's Enrons
By Frank Rich
New York Times | Opinion

Saturday, 6 July, 2002

George W. Bush is so peeved about corporate America's "wrongdoers" --
not to be confused with "evildoers" -- that last week he spoke out about them
four times in four days. By the time he took a breather, the markets had hit
their worst half-year finish since 1970, the Nasdaq was at a five-year low, the
dollar was on the skids and, despite much evidence to the contrary, a majority
of Americans had told CNN/USA Today pollsters that the country was in a
recession.

On Tuesday the president returns to the subject in a full-dress speech on
Wall Street. Maybe it's time to try pinning the whole mess on Ann Richards
again.

Mr. Bush keeps saying all the right things. He is "deeply concerned." He
will "hold people accountable." But words, like stocks, lose value when nothing
backs them up. It is now more than six months since the president promised "a
lot of government inquiry into Enron." Since then, Playboy has done a better job
of exposing the women of Enron than the Bush administration has done at
exposing its men. Just as the Justice Department rounded up some 1,000
alleged Sept. 11 suspects and failed to indict a single one of them for terrorist
activity, so it has made a big show of its shaky Andersen conviction while
failing to indict a single Enron executive or individual Andersen accountant. (Not
that all the law-enforcement news is downbeat: last month John Ashcroft's
minions held a press conference to boast that a 13-month investigation had led
to the arrest of 12 prostitutes in New Orleans.)

The sight of a corporate crook being led away in handcuffs, Giuliani-style,
would do far more to restore confidence in Wall Street than any more
presidential blather. Mr. Bush says that only "a few bad actors" are at fault.
Why is the administration so lax about bringing them to justice?

That may have something to do with who those "few bad actors" are.
Speaking on ABC's "This Week," Richard Grasso, chairman of the New York
Stock Exchange, tossed out a range of 1 to 15 as the rough count of corporate
culprits, "in comparison to more than 10,000 publicly traded corporations." The
fact remains that so far at least five members of that theoretically tiny club have
direct ties to the Bush administration: Enron, Halliburton, Andersen, KMPG and
Merrill Lynch -- the last three all former clients of the president's choice as Wall
Street's top cop, the S.E.C. chairman Harvey Pitt. Five for 15: Mr. Bush could
have used a batting average that high when he ran the Texas Rangers.

Despite this record, there has been only balking, not housecleaning, at the
White House. Thomas White, who was vice chairman of Enron Energy Services
when it allegedly hid $500 million in losses and manipulated the California
energy crisis, is still secretary of the Army, despite having been cited by the
Senate Armed Services Committee for violating his signed ethics agreement.
(Even worse, Mr. White has threatened to bring to the Army his "understanding
of best business practices.") The record of Enron contacts by him and
countless other administration officials remains incomplete and in constant
revision. What information does dribble out often emanates from the White
House counsel, Alberto Gonzales, who himself had an attorney-client
relationship with Enron while a partner at Vinson & Elkins in Houston.

Perhaps it's Mr. Gonzales who, as the administration's chief ethics maven,
advised the White House this week on how to handle the 1991 S.E.C. report
showing that Mr. Bush had filed disclosures of his stock trades in Harken
Energy, where he was a director, as much as eight months late. The ethical
call? Blame Harken's lawyers. A presidential spokesman assured us as well
that this infraction amounted to nothing more than driving 60 in a
55-mile-per-hour zone. That will surely bring good cheer to those Harken
shareholders who were left holding the stock that Mr. Bush sold, with no
insider's knowledge, of course, just before it tanked.

WorldCom is a political boon to the president because it allows him to
moralize about epic-scale crime without mentioning Enron, Halliburton or
Harken. But the Enron bomb hasn't been defused. Its next detonation may
come the day someone outside the administration unearths the as-yet mostly
secret names of those buddies of Enron executives who were let into the
hundreds of side partnerships that overnight yielded multimillion-dollar plunder
on nominal stakes (with ordinary stockholders left paying the bill). "Not in
memory has a single major company grown so big in tandem with a
presidential dynasty and a corrupted political system," wrote the Republican
political analyst Kevin Phillips in The Los Angeles Times five months ago,
tracing Bush family favor-swapping with Enron back to 1988 and likening
Enron's potential damage to that of the Harding administration's Teapot Dome
scandals. "The question now is whether what went up together will come down
together."

It's a question only Mr. Bush can answer. He can give the oil cronies within
his administration an ethical pass, much as Harding did. He can keep trying to
finesse the Wall Street crisis with rhetorical panaceas as empty as his father's
"Message: I care" response to his own economic storm. Or he can fulfill a
campaign promise and become a reformer with results, a Teddy Roosevelt who
cleans up capitalism to make it stronger.

No flowery speeches are required to describe the reforms needed now, from
fully independent policing of accounting firms to the complete prohibition of
conflicts of interest that encourage both accountants and stockbrokers to cut
corners. "No off-balance-sheet or offshore entities, no shell corporations, no
sham transactions," adds Robert Morgenthau, the Manhattan district attorney,
who is pursuing Enron more aggressively than the administration is. Arthur
Levitt, the former S.E.C. chairman, urges legislation that increases the legal
liability for investment bankers, lawyers and accountants who aid, abet and
also profit from corporate Ponzi schemes.

The president could get real reform "in a heartbeat," says Eliot Spitzer, the
New York attorney general, who went after Merrill Lynch while the Pitt S.E.C.
slept. "All he has to do is call Oxley" -- Michael Oxley, who is steering a weak
Republican "reform" bill through the House -- "and say this is the bill we're
passing instead." But that's about as likely as Martha Stewart discovering a
cure for cancer instead of trying to cash in on one. Mr. Bush has already
opposed the notion of requiring corporations to count executive stock options
as expenses -- a simple fix endorsed by Alan Greenspan and Warren Buffett as
an antidote to fictional profits. The Treasury Department, Newsweek reports, is
hard at work stifling a bill that would end the offshore shenanigans that allowed
Enron (with 800-plus such entities) to evade taxes in four out of five years.

Even within existing law, the Bush administration's notion of enforcement is
the antithesis of T.R.'s: it speaks loudly and carries a small stick. On
Wednesday a judge threw out an S.E.C. action against the accounting firm
Ernst & Young because the S.E.C. could not muster the quorum of conflict-free
commissioners required by law to bring its case; both Mr. Pitt and another
Bush S.E.C. appointee had previously worked for Ernst & Young. Mr. Pitt's
conflicts also include meeting privately with Xerox and KPMG executives while
their companies are under investigation by his agency. "It's like the mob's
consigliere running the F.B.I," in the words of Marshall Wittmann, a
T.R.-minded conservative Republican at the Hudson Institute.

As Mr. Bush blames others for his Harken mishaps, so Mr. Pitt's new
shtick is to hide behind Bill Clinton, telling Matt Lauer, "this is, unfortunately, a
mess that I inherited from the prior administration." But it was Mr. Pitt who
invited the likes of WorldCom to play fast and loose by implying last fall that no
one need fear the "kinder and gentler" S.E.C. he would install in place of Mr.
Levitt's, which initiated the Xerox and Rite Aid cases that Mr. Pitt would now
like to take credit for.

It's not that Democrats are clean. When Al Gore blasted Mr. Pitt last
weekend for having led the accounting industry's drive "to open up loopholes" in
the 1990's, he could have been describing his own ticket mate, Joe Lieberman,
who was second to none in doing the accounting industry's bidding. But the
Democrats don't have the power to undo the damage anyway. It is Mr. Bush
who is C.E.O. If he doesn't bring zero tolerance of corporate cheating to his
own White House, it's hard to imagine Americans rushing back into the market
trusting that his administration will enforce it anywhere else.

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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (270685)7/7/2002 2:35:43 PM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Perhaps you will reread your post, and then read the Ten Commandments....particularly in reference to #9, and #10....
Lying is "bearing false witness against your neighbor..."
and
"Coveting what others have" is equally unworthy.

TEN COMMANDMENTS
I. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.

III. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.

IV. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

V. Honour thy father and thy mother.

VI. Thou shalt not kill.

VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

VIII. Thou shalt not steal.

IX. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

X. Thou shalt not covet any thing that is thy neighbour's.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (270685)7/7/2002 6:08:35 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
re:"the opiate of the masses;i.e., religion, that is being shamelessly used to control people.....Frankly, I think that the Lord is sick and tired of being used to get votes"

From todays Times.....


nytimes.com

When Patriotism Wasn't Religious
By ARTHUR SCHLESINGER JR.

[T] he word "God" does not appear in the Constitution of the United States, a document that erects if not quite a wall, at least a fence between church and state. "In God We Trust" began to appear on American coins in the 19th century, but in the early 20th century President Theodore Roosevelt, having asked the sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens to design new coinage, was relieved to find no statute mandating "In God We Trust" on coins.

"As the custom, altho without legal warrant, had grown up," T. R. wrote to a clergyman distressed over the prospect of godless coins, "I might have felt at liberty to keep the inscription had I approved of its being on the coinage. But as I did not approve of it, I did not direct that it should again be put on."

T. R. expressed his "very firm conviction that to put such a motto on coins . . . not only does no good but does positive harm." His objection to "In God We Trust" was not constitutional; it was aesthetic. He felt that the motto cheapened and trivialized the trust in God it was intended to promote. "In all my life I have never heard any human being speak reverently of this motto on the coins or show any sign of its having appealed to any high emotion in him," he wrote. Indeed, he added, "the existence of this motto on the coins was a constant source of jest and ridicule."

Congress, devoted then as now to religiosity, overruled T. R. and made the motto mandatory. A similar issue now arises from the decision by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit that the insertion of the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional.

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, a former Baptist minister, as part of the celebration of the 400th anniversary of what our politically incorrect ancestors called Columbus's "discovery" of America. Bellamy was a Christian socialist dedicated to the ideal of a cooperative commonwealth. His unpopular socialist critique of capitalism from the pulpit forced his resignation from the ministry. Soon afterward he joined the staff of The Youth's Companion, the once-famous children's magazine, which printed his Pledge of Allegiance on Sept. 8, 1892.

Francis Bellamy said on Flag Day in 1931, a short time before his death, that the pledge was "born out of my own love of the flag and for all the lofty Americanism it represented." Two alterations have been made in Bellamy's text. In 1924 "my flag" became "the flag of the United States of America." And in 1954 Congress changed "one nation indivisible" into "one nation under God, indivisible."

This second change came about in order to emphasize the antagonism between God-fearing Americans and godless Communists, as if that antagonism needed reinforcement in the age of Joe McCarthy. "From this day forward," President Dwight D. Eisenhower said in signing the law, "the millions of our schoolchildren will daily proclaim . . . the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty." T. R.'s objection to the cheapening of religious avowals had long since been forgotten. (Eisenhower also said, "Our government makes no sense unless it is founded on a deeply held religious belief ? and I don't care what it is.")

Bellamy "would have objected strongly to this change, as it changed the fundamental meaning," according to his granddaughter, Barbara Bellamy Wright. "He had considered that `One nation, indivisible' conveyed the deep meaning that after the Civil War our nation could not be divided," she said, and the reference to God "tampered with the original meaning of the pledge as well as spoiling its rhythmic cadence."

Yet a hysterical clamor has risen against the Ninth Circuit decision and in favor of returning the pledge to the original text ? a text that Americans found quite satisfactory for nearly two-thirds of a century. The "under God" addition, by identifying patriotism with religion, excludes agnostics, atheists and all believers in some deity or deities other than the Christian God. Nor does the "under God" addition meet Theodore Roosevelt's test of promoting reverence and appealing to high emotions. Doubtless all the crooks in the corporate community have recited the pledge without notably improving their conduct.

As for the Constitution, more than a half-century ago the Supreme Court, in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, declared unconstitutional a law requiring schoolchildren to salute the flag and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. "If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation," Justice Robert H. Jackson memorably said for the court, "it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion."

The court handed down its decision against compulsory pledges of allegiance and flag salutes on Flag Day in 1943, when young Americans were fighting and dying for that flag around the planet. The American people then, far from denouncing the court, applauded the decision as a pretty good statement of what we were fighting for. Are we backsliding today? Perhaps the next step for those who identify patriotism with religion will be to try to amend the Constitution itself by mentioning God.

Arthur Schlesinger Jr. is the author, most recently, of ``A Life in the 20th Century.''