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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (167496)	7/6/2002 9:53:08 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 186894

They could get an early snapshot of these things, sure, but you should already know that all these variables can certainly change from stepping to stepping. Early Hammer samples will not give you a clear picture of the final product. Far from it, in fact. Yes, I realize that. But they will give Intel insight to the current state of the product and that's significant. EP

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (167496)	7/7/2002 1:37:07 AM
From: semiconeng	Respond to of 186894

They could get an early snapshot of these things, sure, but you should already know that all these variables can certainly change from stepping to stepping. Early Hammer samples will not give you a clear picture of the final product. Far from it, in fact. But I guess any information is a good thing. Better to have foggy glasses then to be blind entirely. wbmw There would be plenty of information available. There is a technique called Strip Back, in which a semiconductor is peeled back layer by layer, revealing details of the design, and the state of the Process when the chip was made. If you have several dated chips, you can track the Process. Normally, the technique is used to find defects, but I would guess that these and similar techniques could be used for intelligence gathering too. Semi