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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (105)	7/7/2002 11:21:06 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 3959

I am not aware of such a demand for their citizens who are being held at Guantanamo bay In fact, they have demanded, and been granted, the right to interview them. Instead they should release those Saudi prisoners from Guantanamo and hand them over to the Saudis, who will execute them within 3 weeks, I bet. Or release them in 2. However, the US has to get nations on their side before thay can do so True, but if the reports coming out of the Mideast are correct, they already have the cooperation of Turkey, Jordan and Kuwait, and Israel, naturally. How many do we need? All we need are the bases. It's not as if the Arab armies would be useful for actual fighting; Israel and Turkey are the only Mideast countries with real armies, that is, armies that aren't just for show. I'll have a look at bitterlemons. Good talking with you. Do keep on reading real historians! Most of the current debate on the Mideast takes place in a context of total historical amnesia.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (105)	7/8/2002 2:17:25 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

More info on the private behavior of Our Friends the Saudis. From opinionjournal.com: Our Friends the Saudis A Filipino man who spent seven months in a Saudi prison for practicing Christianity says Saudi officials allowed al Qaeda inmates to hold a lavish celebration after the Sept. 11 attack on America. Dennis Moreno la Calle talked with Fox News Channel's Tony Snow on Friday: Moreno la Calle: From the solitary confinement, I stayed there for 13 days. And then they transferred me to the cell where we were separated as Christians from the others. And I was with seven other men, which I don't know. But they said, "Oh, you are Filipino." And one guy was Filipino. He was very nice. He said, "I went to the Philippines. I met with . . . the leader of the MNLF, [Moro] National Liberation Front." And he said, "I met with the Abu Sayyaf group." . . . And then this September 11 happened. They heard the news. And they were all shouting. And I said, "What happened? What happened?" They said, "Oh, somebody went through the building." We didn't have any TV that time. The following day, we had a feast. People were just happy because there was good food in the prison. And then after a week, I think about two weeks, somebody else came. And they were hugging each other as if they were crying, and they were telling stories. And I said, "Who is he?" The guy just said, "Oh, it means it's an officer." I said, "Of whom?" I thought the officer of a government, but he said of bin Laden. Snow: OK, very briefly then, the Saudi government in its own way threw a feast in the prison after September 11? Moreno la Calle: It's the warden. And the sergeants allowed the foods to be brought in that so we may have a feast. I didn't know. I'm really sorry that I partook in it.