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To: Moominoid who wrote (20878)	7/7/2002 7:53:14 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

<<So this torture stuff is irrelevant.>> Not necessarily...Consider You are on a walk in a park inna city and you come upon a skinny unarmed teenager mugging an old lady.... Do you help? Or you come upon a gang of toughs with automatic weapons mugging an old lady. Do you help? We do what we can....I guess But I ain't sure if going to Iraq is the right thing todo.

To: Moominoid who wrote (20878)	7/7/2002 11:14:27 PM
From: AC Flyer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi David: >>plenty of other terrible regimes out there that the US plans to do nothing about<< Possibly, but unlike Iraq, neither of the candidates you mentioned are actively working to attack US citizens and interests by any means possible. China is not. Russia is our buddy now, maybe you didn't get the memo. The world has always managed to find plenty of apologists for torturers, sadists and madmen. Neville Chamberlain shook Hitler's hand in 1938 and returned to England to declare "Peace in our time!" Stern is a Jewish name, is it not? I'm surprised you don't get it. >>So this torture stuff is irrelevant<< Not to the victims.