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To: AC Flyer who wrote (20927)	7/8/2002 12:11:41 PM
From: pezz	Respond to of 74559

<<And we get the oil, too.>> ?? LOL...NOW ya'er TALKIN!!

To: AC Flyer who wrote (20927)	7/8/2002 12:17:25 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 74559

And we get the oil, too. Now there you have it AC. This BS about torture as a motivation is just that, or might I say the words of the apologist point of view for big business. And the twofer is really that the US cuts off their new buddy's next option for a route south after the Russian Afghanistan debacle. As always the cute and cuddly Canadian cynic.. regards Kastel

To: AC Flyer who wrote (20927)	7/8/2002 7:39:49 PM
From: Moominoid	Respond to of 74559

It turned out after Gulf War II that quite a bit of the propaganda we heard about Iraqi atrocities in Kuwait during the war was just that- propaganda. And we get the oil, too I'm not sure what that means. Removing Saddam's gangster regime may reduce the threat to disruption of oil supply from the Arabian Gulf region to Western countries. But it is hardly a legitimate reason to wage war on a country being pretty nebulous and purely economic. Now I'm the guy who was the lone voice back in 1991 in a graduate class in resource scarcity at Boston University who favored taking back Kuwait and overthrowing the Iraqi regime. I think others were scared to speak out against the professor (my PhD supervisor). But there has to be defensible grounds for doing so. We can't have the US just go around attacking any country it feels like because of some vague future threat. That's international anarchy. If Iraq thinks the US is about to attack it has a legitimate right to self defence to attack the US too. David