To: deeno who wrote (4772 ) 7/11/2002 9:47:14 PM From: ahhaha Respond to of 24758 First, latency is not an indicator of increasing utilization of optical equipment SONET and DWDM gear are designed to deliver voice and data in slots of traffic, and there is generally no latency at this level of the network unlike the IP layer, we think. Please tell me how the "IP layer" in New York gets to the "IP layer" in LA. It should get there via IP layer, but carriers don't want to make the capex. It has to ride in SONET frames with the other packets. Of course, there is ATM, but carriers don't want ATMIP either because it's too expensive. They're pushing the legacy limits and their costs onto us. No latency in SONET? Get this guy outta here. So increased latency may be a lead indicator of demand for IP routers, but not optical systems and components. The point I made was that carriers can choose a solution which somewhat scales linearly in cost for say, 5 years, or they can start to phase in what inevitably they will have to provide. ? Second, the linkage between rising traffic and carrier capex is unclear. Over the past 12 months, carriers have redeployed systems and swapped line cards from under utilized to congested routes. While such substitution is unsustainable in the long-term, we think, it also can delay a capex recovery and create sales volatility in the near-term. How many schemes are left before we can't even log on?? Third, utilization fluctuates widely as carriers consolidate Since many carriers lease far more traffic than they fill with customers, when they enter bankruptcy, their customers migrate to alternative carriers and large amounts of bandwidth are freed up. Given our expectation of further consolidation in the services group, forecasting capacity utilization is likely to be a moving goal post. Is this guy saying that the total bandwidth demand decreases?? Fourth, and most importantly, spending today is driven by expected ROI In the post-bubble world, capex is driven by expected return on investment, not traffic growth or page views, we think. Don't post junk from amateurs who are paid to generate useless trash. We believe carriers will spend more on networks not when latency rises, but when ROI in data networks improves. What an idiot. I'll bet he's a 'crat and an engineer from an eastern school. Just ask yourself, what drives ROI? More and/or better. If not more, what better? QoS? Guess what. QoS and other services and service enhancements increase total demand. Duh.