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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (286)	7/13/2002 5:32:52 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

Judeofascist Terrorism in its full splendor: Survivors Mark Srebrenica Massacre Thu Jul 11, 7:51 AM ET By ALMIR ARNAUT, Associated Press Writer KLADANJ, Bosnia-Herzegovina (AP) - When Ajka Mehinovic traveled the road from Srebrenica in 1995, she was fleeing the worst civilian massacre in Europe since World War II. On Thursday, she returned to the eastern Bosnian town, this time to remember those who didn't get away. "I'm going to pray for their souls there," Mehinovic said. Seven years ago Serb forces slaughtered some 8,000 men and boys in Srebrenica, a town that had been declared a safe zone by the United Nations. Each year since, survivors have marked the anniversary. This year, for the third time, they travelled to the former silver mining town, 50 miles northeast of the capital of Sarajevo, by bus - the same mode of transport as when they fled during the massacre. "It's like 1995. Buses full of women, children and old people, just heading the other direction," said Mehinovic, who was among some 5,000 survivors who came to Srebrenica on Thursday. They came to honor those who died in the massacre, during Bosnia's 3-year war. On July 11, 1995, Serb troops led by Gen. Ratko Mladic - now one of the most-wanted war crimes suspects sought by the U.N. war crimes tribunal - forced out all Muslims who had been taking sanctuary in the town under U.N. protection. They headed toward nearby Potocari, where a small number of Dutch U.N. peacekeepers were stationed. The Muslims hoped the Dutch would be able to protect them from Serb aggression. But the Dutch peacekeepers were outnumbered and their repeated requests that U.N. headquarters in Bosnia send them NATO air support went unfulfilled. Mladic took charge. Serb soldiers separated men and women and brought the men to fields, where they executed more than 8,000 systematically during three days. Some men, including Mehinovic's husband and son, tried to flee through the forests but were caught and killed. Mladic organized buses that brought women, children and elderly to Tuzla, where they hoped to rejoin their husbands and sons. Most saw their hopes shattered. [snip] story.news.yahoo.com

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (286)	7/13/2002 7:15:20 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

This is what you wrote with regards to topics of discussion on this thread. ...."This discussion group is to promote understanding and appreciation of international affairs related to global economic, political and cultural issues. It is not restricted to any specific topic. Suggested topics (but not restricted to): 1. The relevance of United Nation's mission and purpose? 2. The African scene: aid, hunger, fight against diseases? 3. War against terrorism: America's war or a war for all nations to participate? 4. One nation "under God", separation of religion and state or embracing atheism? 5. Should we hold our elected officials to a higher moral standard and why? 6. Clash of civilizations or is it terror? 7. The basis of a nation's formation: religion, race or both?".... ...." international affairs.... cultural issues ....' Clash of civilizations...terror ....Religion, race or both?" So it would appear that religion IS on topic? My first post on this thread was July 6/02 Message 17701238 I suggest that if you don't want to discuss islam then don't bring the topic up when you know that someone will take you up on it It appears that there is no problem with you posting pro muslim/islam propaganda on other threads. Your first post about muslim religion on this thread. July3 " Epsteinbd, there is much talk about the rise of Muslim radicalism and the havoc it is causing worldwide. Some have seized the opportunity to run down the Muslim Faith. I believe that ultimately the Muslim world will have to sort this battle out for themselves. The West's role should be to back the Muslim moderates and ensure that they triumph over their radical believers. And Indonesia could a pl;ace to start for the west. Message 17690279 " Lorne and X the Unknown, interesting article on Islam in today's NYT July 9, 2002 Bigotry in Islam - And Here Message 17713497 " Lorne good post. And the article is right about the "Iranian bomb". There are Islamic moderates who need the world's support. They are our frontline folks against Islamic fundamentalist. Another group of people in the frontline are those oppressed women women in Iran who are increasingly speaking out against and murdering their husbands. Message 17714495 " Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia, which are Muslim countries give their women the same voting rights as their men folks. I do not know about Saudi Arabia whetehr even their men folks have a right to vote or not. They are a monarchy I thought. Message 17715374 " Don't you think that branding together only becuase of common religious beliefs is taking something a little too fay just like the Muslims who come together and fight and oppose them? Message 17724433 " Fundamentalist Christian thinking, is it not? We criticize the fundamentalist Islamic followers who interpret the Koran as written in those days and apply their interpretations today without making allowances for modern day society. Now we have the evangelical (notice how people avoid referring to them as fundamentalist) Christians, encouraging the Jews to leave the US (sorry, shouldn't have said that and instead that they are being encouraged to go settle in Israel in keeping with the Bible.) " I sure do hope that this does not become a Christian-Muslim war in the name of "war against terrorism" Message 17729780 " There are millions of Jews and millions of Irish. Why is it not the world vs. the Irish or the world vs. the Jews? Is it because those terrorists did not attack the US? And since Al Qaeda, who is not welcomed in any Muslim country attacked the US, the US decides that it is a war against Muslims? Message 17730837