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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (320)	7/13/2002 5:45:10 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

The "State" did not have to be established>>> It was. 75% born as proud citizens of homeland-Israel. Most Progressive Country in the Region. Hard work and soul went into it..EOM

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (320)	7/13/2002 5:55:01 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3959

Len, does it strike you strange that Arabs never bothered to give fellow Palestinian Arabs, never mind State, never mind autonomy but most treat them like pigs, always have?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (320)	7/13/2002 5:57:59 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 3959

Pawns? hrw.org As a consequence, Palestinians in Syria do not suffer from massive unemployment or underemployment, and only about 111,208 refugees live in camps. At the same time Palestinians, like Syrian citizens, remain under a powerful state system in which basic civil and political rights -- such as freedom of expression and association -- are tightly controlled, and a state of emergency, in force since 1963, grants broad, unchecked powers to a vast security apparatus. In Lebanon, in sharp contrast, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are stateless and over half live in overcrowded camps. The right to work is severely restricted, and massive poverty has become the norm. The situation of the Palestinians in Lebanon deteriorated steadily in the wake of the expulsion of PLO guerrillas following the 1982 Israeli invasion. By some accounts, of the 375,218 Palestinians registered as refugees with UNRWA in Lebanon, only some 200,000 remain; others have fled from the inhospitable conditions that successive Lebanese governments have sustained over the last two decades.(1)

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (320)	7/13/2002 6:05:11 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 3959

The domestic political agendas of some Arab governments steered them on a course of non-compliance with LAS resolutions concerning Palestinian refugees. Jordan assumed control of the remaining portion of Palestine, in what became known as the ‘West Bank’, and issued its residents - refugees and non-refugees alike - with Jordanian nationality. This action was not met favourably by other member states of the LAS, yet it was gradually accepted and dealt with as de facto. Subsequently, when Jordan attempted in 1967 to offer temporary Jordanian passports to Gazans it did not meet with the same level of objection it met with earlier when it had annexed the West Bank and thereafter raised the issue within the LAS as a humanistic necessity that would give Gazans freedom of movement. Some argue that Jordan’s actions against the stream of Arab consensus regarding non-naturalisation resolutions could be seen as a favourable response to the Zionist plan to absent Palestinians and annul their cause. A counter-argument, however, is that giving Jordanian nationality to Palestinians did not in any way decrease the intensity of Palestinian national feeling and support for the contemporary Palestinian national movement. Also, the “Statelessness” that Palestinians endured in other states did not make them feel any more Palestinian on that account than those who were naturalised. On the contrary, it exacerbated their suffering and made them targets of discrimination. Staunch Gazans, whose loyalty to their Palestinian identity was beyond question, could not help but express their joy at the Jordanian Government’s decision to grant them Jordanian citizenship. Patriotism did not deter Palestinian travel document holders from striving to obtain nationality in Lebanon, Egypt, or any other country that was willing to naturalise them. Striving to obtain nationality became a matter of getting acknowledgment of a formalised legal status in the absence of substantial and real formal acknowledgment of their national identity and roots. shaml.org