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Politics : The Palestinian Hoax -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Thomas M. who wrote (1449)	7/15/2002 5:12:01 PM
From: Liatris Spicata	Respond to of 3467

I have not read Love's book. I do know there are many falsehoods spoken about the Middle East- Love's newspaper having its share- and would be interested in any factual claims of Israeli military units instructed to massacre civilians. I doubt it has happened, except in the fertile imagination of Arabs and their sympathizers, as when Suha Arafat claimed the Israelis used poison gas against Arabs civilians during her dinner with Hilary Clinton. Even the grandaddy of alleged Israeli massacres, Dir Yassein, has come into question in recent years, with Arab estimates of the casualties being decreased and Israelis doubting that it happened. Like as not, Dir Yassein was in large part a propaganda ploy intended to get Arab civilians to evacuate, and then entered "history". I would be quite interested in captured documents that "prove Egypt was doing everything it could to suppress those attacks". Frankly, the claim smacks of disinformation to me, but I suppose I should withold judgement, as it's the first I've heard of such a claim. Were it generally accepted, I would have thought it would have come to my attention. Can anyone else on this thread substantiate Tom's claim here? I should think a dictatorship like Nasser's would have had no difficulty controlling the fedayeen, had the will existed- he had no trouble dealing harshly with the Moslem Brotherhood. So I think your claim strains credulity. I am willing to be proven wrong, although even if I am, the fact remains that sustained attacks coming from another country are a reasonable casus belli. Just ask India. I have routinely heard, for decades, the vicious, incendiary, murderous propaganda from the Arab side, with Nasser claiming, "We will drive the Israelis into the sea amidst of sea of blood". I don't hear anything like that coming from the Israeli side, and never have from responsible elements in Israel (as a matter of fact, not even from the irresponsible elements have I heard such sentiment from Israelis). For decades I hear an Edward Said claim his status as a Palestinian refugee and movingly describe the plight of his own life and that of his people, only to learn recently that the gentleman grew up in Egypt, and stayed one summer in Jerusalem, where his family owned a house. The respected Professor Said then claimed his life story was a "metaphor" for the Palestinian people, rather than being based in his individual circumstances. As a professsor of comparative literature, I have no doubt that he is a well versed in imaginative metaphor (but truth would be another matter for the gentleman). Glorious leader Arafat has similar difficulty placing his past accurately. The respect these people have for truth is exactly zero, so I'm not sure why I should place a great deal of credibility in any of their claims. Kenneth Love may be another matter, and I will try to locate his book, which I think is out of print now, but should not be hard to find. Larry