"I believe I have refuted all of your assertions."
Here are a few you missed. And even the ones you have addressed you haven't refuted:
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And your defense is weak. "He wasn't convicted" Well I guess corporate America is on moral highground too because I haven't seen many convictions there either.
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I feel that you must demonize everyone who disagrees with you. You surely have done it with me.
In case you dont know. Paper tiger is when you state your opponent's position in a way that you can easily defeat it.
I repeat I dont hate anyone. If I choose to believe that the subsidiary purchase was a scam I have a right to do so. That doesnt mean I hate anyone. This is still a free country, contrary to what one would feel who has been attacked by you and your little band of rabid chihuahuas.
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To interpret your opponents words with perjorative judgements like hate and unAmerican is to demonize in my book.
I'm glad to hear you do not dislike the Clinton family. (my guess this is not an honest statement) I do not have the time to go back and prove you wrong on the statement that you do not dislike any family, or the other one about never condemning anyone based upon disregarding what others have indicated is not true. You must be as pure as the riven snow, with no bias what so ever. Give me a break.
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Dow down 675 points for the week. Speaks for itself.
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I said I didn't like the Bush family, I don't respect that some of their money came from war, ie Carlyle, and to me they represent the attitude of being beholden to corporate America in a way I don't trust.
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"And he still opposes both reforms that would reduce the incentives for corporate scams, such as requiring companies to count executive stock options against profits, and reforms that would make it harder to carry out such scams, such as not allowing accountants to take consulting fees from the same firms they audit"
This is sad, if true. I think it's obvious that the second reform is necessary.
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"If he's guilty of violating the law, he'll be put away. If he's not guilty, shut up."
The whole problem here is that there is a perception that there is no justice for wealthy corporate insiders and such. That the wealthy are immune to jail time. Everybody in congress gets up and gives a speech about how bad this corporate corruption is, and nobody goes to jail. It's like that old commercial used to say "where's the beef?"
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I guess you can also say rest in peace to the republican idea that "industry will regulate itself, in a free market everything gets worked out and the consumer is the beneficiary".
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My point about the SEC was that they have simply declined to pursue the case against Bush. That is not a declaration of no wrong doing.
I think your accusation of "un american" because someone disagrees with your opinions is a most self righteous and bigoted ploy. I personally think your attempt to silence opinions other than your own by slander and attack are most absolutely un American. What ever happened to freedom of speech?
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You've got a brain. Why dont you use it and address the issues I bring up like a gentleman.
To me it is pure hypocrisy when those who the whole time Clinton was in office were casting judgement and innuendo try to say that now that their guy is in charge the rules have changed. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, Thomas ol' boy. Get used to it.
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Pure partisanism cloaked in self righteous pseudo patriotism. When you have another thought let me know.
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"Aloha Petroleum, a retail gasoline subsidiary in Hawaii, was picked up in 1986 as part of Harken's purchase of Aloha's parent company, E-Z Serve Inc., which had about 900 retail outlets. The deal gave Harken numerous tax advantages. By 1989, Harken had financial problems. E. Stuart Watson, then a Harken board member, said he thought the Harken executives "were nuts."
"They were engaging in hedging operations, trying to protect themselves in the purchase and sale of gasoline and oil, and man, they were losing millions," he said.
Eager to "redeploy assets," as the company later put it in a report to the SEC, Harken sold for $12 million an 80 percent interest in Aloha to a company that was one of its major shareholders. The purchaser, Intercontinental Mining and Resources Ltd., two of whose directors were also on Harken's board, paid $1 million in cash and submitted an $11 million IOU.
The first installment on the loan, for $1 million, wasn't due until mid-1992, three years after the purchase, but Harken accounted for the sale as a $7.9 million capital gain for 1989. The move enabled it to keep its losses down to $3.3 million that year. Harken's outside auditors, Arthur Andersen LLP, approved the company's annual report to the SEC as a fair presentation of Harken's financial position.
The SEC's accountants didn't see it that way and told the company to restate its earnings. In 1991, Harken filed an amended report for 1989, stating that as a result of "discussions with the Securities and Exchange Commission's accounting staff," it was no longer counting the $7.9 million as a gain for 1989. As a result of "the change in accounting method" and other restatements, Harken said in a footnote, its losses for that year were actually $12.6 million."
The amazing thing to me is that the company was able to sidestep the disasterous year, 1989, by these accounting shenanigans, and then just restate a loss 2 years later, when it was old news. I wonder if they had to pay any penalty for mis-stating 1989 earnings.
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I guess J La and Watson are the forum's ideological Raid, per se. I guess it is obvious to anyone on the receiving end of their spray that they don't want us around.
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So now that your guy's in charge, you want to change the rules. ie nobody should criticize.
Well America is great IMO because in this country you can dissent and there is freedom of thought. I dont need your approval. It is un American to me to try to silence dissent by slander and insult.
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It seems like they feel it is their job to be the thought police.
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No you have not attempted to deny my right to my opinion. You have just harassed me because I expressed it on this forum.
I have decided to post here more often because I will not be intimidated. You have yourself to thank for that.
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By the way, my complaint is not that they have an opinion. It's that they harrass anyone who expresses an opinion that is opposed to theirs. I'd say a larger portion of their posts consists of insults and namecalling than consists of any kind of thoughtful presentation of an arguement.
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BTW, you have refuted nothing. Your opinion is that I am un American, biased, and narrow minded. That has been expressed over and over again. But you have not said much more than that.
My opinion of you is that you are the self assigned thought police of this thread. And that you try to enforce your view of what the thread should be by intimidation and name calling. That probably works on a lot of people. It's obvious that you're pretty good at it. |
