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To: Ken Reidy who wrote (94832)	7/15/2002 4:59:18 PM
From: Softechie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

If the markets are manipulated...why invest in them? That's why they're staying away!

To: Ken Reidy who wrote (94832)	7/15/2002 5:20:25 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

Today's gold share action makes sense if youa accept the premise that the shares lead bullion. With the stock market perhaps now poised to rally for a few weeks, the odds are that the dollar will rally too and POG will drop. That is why the gold shares were weak today IMHO.

To: Ken Reidy who wrote (94832)	7/15/2002 6:33:41 PM
From: BGR	Respond to of 99280

Any up move is manipulation, any down move legitimate. The only PE that makes sense is 0. Deal with it, dude.

To: Ken Reidy who wrote (94832)	7/15/2002 7:42:30 PM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

The manipulation is blatant as well as obvious. We go thru this shit every month. Max Pain on the QQQ was 25 and this oversold it was not hard to induce a short covering rally to force it back up. The powers that be want to crush gold and prop up the US$. The US$ propping has not succeeded but there are enough fools out there that keep looking for the bottom so we get nonsense rallies like this. Personally I think this one is DOA already (just like the last one) but I suppose we could get to QQQ 26-27 or so. It is precicely this manipulation that has forced some investors out of the markets. Hedge funds are willing to trash a stock 5 points just to make 1 point out of it. They are also willing to do the reverse. Gaps up/down on light volume. Good news from CREE gets sold (a couple days ago only to be bought today), bad news from JNPR gets bought cause some hedge fund bought a zillion shares and has not unloaded them yet. Actually I fully expect the situation to get worse. MUFUs have the stupid policy of being 100% in 100% of the time and analyst recommendations of buy at the to and sell at the bottom are legendary. Certain stocks (like MU AMAT KLAC etc) are protected and act in illogical manners all the time. Does EXPE at this price make any sense? Where are the downgrades on this shit. Look at QLGC upgrade today (BASED ON TALKS WITH QLGC!). Where the F is REGFD? Does anyone think that the results of DELL were not known by the powers that be before the announcement. Why are earnings announced AH anyway? So the someones that know the news can F with them ah at little expense, on light volume, that's why. They know the results and have already acted on it. Then we get panic induced selling or buying when someone else was alreay in and all they have to do is JAM the FN thing in the direction they want (knowing full well the sheep will participate the the next day). F That. I thinks all earnings should be announced intraday and all analyst talk with companies should be banned TOTALLY. If a company has something to say, it should issue a press release. manipulation? Hell if you are just seeing manipulation you are blind as a bat. ng M