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To: carranza2 who wrote (21189)	7/15/2002 5:36:04 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Networks are complex and demanding things, one reason Crashing-Billy-Boy would actually gain a lot if he could get his hands on Ericsson. On the other hand, he would probably never be able to use all the knowledge, traditions and skills. On the third hand, he managed to pick the VMS brains of DEC to get NT going, although stuff like footprint and bloath had to be sacrificed, due to the still sloppy handling of memory and critical events. On the forth foot, Nokia Networks started from writing interface stuff between orthogonal network vendors and standards, Ericsson and Bell labs two of them, additionally using cheap and massproduced Intel hardware. That is, on the fifth foot, Ericsson has some inner skills, lots of folders and documents, at the art of complex undocumented networks, especially those weirder ones of early, ancient and legacy USA history. But on the sixth, and sexiest foot, global standards have made great imprints (freudian joke) on even the weirdest old monopoly networks, 56kbps, stolen bits and all the funny rests. Ilmarinen Nortel too has all this embedded in their organisation, but what about Lucent, the blinding light of old Ma Monopoly Bell?? Not to forget the seventh foot, is it nicer to be in networks or handsets these days?? As well as the single lost foot, that little nonstandard duck kajstenvall.com kajstenvall.com All, obviously, in both duck-speak and oil, that little magic.

To: carranza2 who wrote (21189)	7/15/2002 6:51:11 PM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 34857

c2, << I learned a lot more from the actual FCC document. >> You should thank PCSTEL for linking it. It was an interesting document. I'm glad to hear you learned something. I just looked ahead a bit here on the board and have concluded that you are living, quacking, proof that a little bit of learning can be dangerous, and you might be wise to continue with more "learning" before flapping your bill. << Appears that Ericsson can do the FCC-required TTY stuff >> According to footnote 3 and a paragraph on page 4 apparently so can Nokia. If I read correctly the problem is not with "the FCC-required TTY stuff". << By Nokia's own definition, a fatal network error is the worst in the hierarchy of network problems. >> By anyone's definition it is. That's is why you proceed in orderly fashion from lab to a single market field verification as network software evolves through various revs and particularly in the case of an initial release of a major new rev. Portland, OR is the affected FOA and if I read the filing correctly the other Nokia markets (GSM RAN) are at S9 presumably (but not necessarily) on a Nortel core running GSM 13 since GSM 15 was beta at time of the filing, and apparently serving customers quite well thank you. Check out footnote 12 because we are talking about vendor to vendor interoperability here ... one of the reasons you don't see much 1xRTT here yet. << Lars' comments were not particularly illuminating. >> I seriously doubt that you understood them, then or now, or at least your posts on subject don't indicate so. Your own comments seldom are "particularly illuminating", and most certainly the blasphemy you indulged in here was not. IF the timetable indicated in the FCC filing was met AWS should be in FOA now and ideally general availability of Nokia S10 software and hardware for G15 should start rolling out in Nokia markets early August. We will have to see. Other than the referenced filing and Lynnette Luna's not too informative article on E-911 and E-OTD of July 8 I have not seen anything new on the subject and don't necessarily expect to. It will be interesting to see if their is any mention of this in Thursdays CC. Deadlines are not always met and software & hardware does not always work outside of lab like it does in lab. That is why we saw no 1xEV-DO handsets commercially available from SKT & LG in Seoul at the World Cup. So much for that opportunity for some nice publicity. - Eric -