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To: Dave who wrote (33981)	7/15/2002 5:23:02 PM
From: Don Green	Respond to of 213177

Dave > But in my opinion, this is not why graphics and video professionals prefer Macintoshes. I think that these aesthetically oriented artistic types simply find the Windows experience less appealing than the Mac experience, at a very visceral level. And I have to agree with them. I think the graphics community took the Apple/Mac road years ago when Windows was not an acceptable alternative and just like Win/Pc users not wanting to start over or learn a new system have stuck with the Mac when today that isn't necessarily justified, but is logical. I wonder how many SGI users have moved to other platforms in recent years or are they just as loyal to what they spend so many years really getting to master? Don

To: Dave who wrote (33981)	7/16/2002 2:40:26 AM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 213177

>>There is no such thing as "raw horsepower" in computing. Such a concept begs the question of "horsepower to do what?" An Altivec-accelerated has more horsepower for doing JPEG compression or Fourier transforms than a P4 that runs at 4x the clock speed. But in my opinion, this is not why graphics and video professionals prefer Macintoshes. I think that these aesthetically oriented artistic types simply find the Windows experience less appealing than the Mac experience, at a very visceral level. And I have to agree with them.<< Dave - I agree with you about that second paragraph. People who are more concerned with aesthetics are more likely to prefer the Mac, as do I. It's also a matter of how the computer tends to be less in one's way in the Mac environment that in Windows. I think the concept of raw horsepower is not completely irrelevant, though. I'm just talking about comparing a wide range of different processing tasks. There are specific things that a P4 is optimized for, such as streaming video, and there are things a G4 is better at. For those tasks clock speed isn't so important. The P4 is not as efficient as the G4, so it needs the higher clock speed. But I wasn't just talking about CPUs. If you compare computers, the P4 has the advantage of a faster memory bus and faster memory, yielding a much higher total memory bandwidth. As has been observed many times on this thread, Mac performance is currently constrained not just by the CPU, but by the memory bandwidth. Nonetheless, I'm still very happy working on this 500MHz TiBook. It's zippy enough for all the things I do (including running Photoshop), it's stable like no Windows notebook I ever had was, and it runs a beautiful OS. - Allen

To: Dave who wrote (33981)	7/16/2002 12:22:42 PM
From: HerbVic	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

Exactly! It's like trying to argue that cigarette users can get the same performance at a lower cost by rolling their own Prince Albert. HerbVic I think that these aesthetically oriented artistic types simply find the Windows experience less appealing than the Mac experience, at a very visceral level.

To: Dave who wrote (33981)	7/16/2002 4:48:04 PM
From: jonkai	Respond to of 213177

I think that these aesthetically oriented artistic types simply find the Windows experience less appealing than the Mac experience, at a very visceral level. And I have to agree with them. it's more like a connoisseur of food knows when they are looking at quality and style of a presentation and taste of food, and they know when they are not looking at quality and style, they can't put it into words... put everyone can communicate it by their attitude around the different plates by the mood they are in........ i'm surprised Intc is holding up after earnings release..... we'll have to see tomorrow....