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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MSI who wrote (275816)	7/15/2002 11:45:43 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

("Sacred Honor" definition, cont.) "Reagan and North were complicit in the terrorism of Iran. They were also complicit in the terrorism in Nicaragua. Ronald Reagan, Oliver North and their team claimed the Contras were "freedom fighters" and champions of democracy. When they made that claim, they lied to the American people again. The Contras were primarily led by members of the national guard that helped keep the tyrannical Somoza family dictatorship in power. They were not interested in promoting democracy, but instead cared only about reclaiming the power they had when they worked for the Somoza dictatorship. The Contras murdered and tortured innocent civilians in Nicaragua, and both Reagan and North knew it. (William D. Hartung, "And Weapons For All") Some of Oliver North's fellow Marine Corps officers agreed with Senator Inouye. "Frontline" interviewed George Gorman, former Captain, U. S. M. C. Gorman said that when North spoke he "literally wanted to throw things at my TV set." Gorman added, "I was seriously considering mailing my ring back to the Naval Academy and denying ever having gone there. I was so embarrassed and humiliated that a professional military officer would stoop to the dishonor and disgrace and warmongering that Oliver North and Poindexter and McFarlane and the rest of the crew did – selling arms to the Iranians after they blew up the Beirut barracks, after they blew up the Beirut embassy. That's the most immoral thing. That's like selling xyclon-B to the Germans after you've found out the Holocaust is underway." Oliver North knew something additional about the real nature of the Contras. North's contact man on the Contras, Robert Owen, wrote from the field that certain Contra leaders were running drugs. Owen also wrote, "part of the crew had criminal records." In February 1986, Owen advised North that a re-supply plane was being used for shipping drugs. After denying the drug running for years, (and only after they were forced to admit it) the Reagan Administration finally admitted they knew about the drug trafficking all along. Then they pretended they had never denied the drug running in the first place. In a November 10, 1986, letter to "The New Republic," Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams wrote regarding Contra drug charges, "This is hardly something we have been unaware of or covering up." Abrams added, "We made those charges." (Robert Parry, "Fooling America," 1992). Journalist Bob Parry points out that when he and fellow AP reporter Brian Barger first disclosed the Contra drug running, the State Department and others in the Reagan Administration denied the charges. The Reagan team also lied when they claimed the reason they sold arms to terrorists and funneled the profits to the Contras was in order to help stop the arms flow to Central America. Representative David Bonior was correct when he said from the floor of the House, "This is a war against the people of Nicaragua. This is a war against the government of Nicaragua. This is not a war about stopping the arms flow

To: MSI who wrote (275816)	7/16/2002 9:25:30 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Well it seems I am unable to speak stupidity, the syntax that seems to be all you understands. By my definition, I see no slander and a lot of content in this post. In any system there is some level of dependency on trust. No checks and balances are perfect. Checks and balances are attempts to guard against individual(s) corruption. Sufficient corruption will defeat checks and balances. All checks and balances are reduced to rules of events or visual cues. Cunning or ingenious stupidity creates expected visual cues and the system is compromised by intent or dumb luck or simple human error. Just as the chaos of nature makes impossible predicting exactly where it will rain and when it will start, the chaos of random human activity and thinking and desires make impossible prediction of all possibilities and thus all systems theory cannot define all the equations and all the constants. It can predict probabilities of only the identified possibilities. So as I said.... Learn what Sacred Honor means and then use simple tests. Every correct judgement I make of others can be tested against. I will judge others as I will judge myself. I will make assumptions about others as I wish them to make assumptions about me. Else be a vacant liberal minded lefty loon.