To: Martin Wormser who wrote (34 ) 7/20/2002 3:51:53 PM From: E. Charters Respond to of 36 Just about any industrial or mine accident can be blamed on staff as in theory everything is foreseeable. It is impossible of course to properly oversee every conceivable workplace situation. Large scale sites like underground mines require constant attention by safety engineers and employee training programs to avoid myriads of accident possibilities. Finally, they need miners who pay attention to their workplace and its construction which can change daily. Ever since I started in mining, safety has been the number one topic. And tramming and chute accidents have been one of the leading causes of injury. Friend of mine got caught in a tramming accident fatally in Sudbury a few years ago, and we had a scoop accident at another mine a few years later. (Solenoid out in that machine, so the brakes failed when the tranny was damaged!) Cobalt chutes used to be called widow makers, Hudson Bay gallery type are much safer as they make a double height gallery that is always a side track off the main drift. In a gallery all you need to do is lean a bit off the tram and you could get whacked though, although you are always moving slower. And timbers can shift with rock movement or other loosening. Could be that it is just inadvertent. Let's hope so, but somehow be smarter next time. Seems a bit overzealous of the safety committee though. And, yes, it may have been preventable by some sort of routine check or other. And they next week some guy lets his lamp cord trail, and... Sad thing. I don't know how it happened so I should not condemn or let them off, but I hope it works out and they don't get found negligent. EC<:-(