To: Scumbria who wrote (276312 ) 7/16/2002 5:04:15 PM From: craig crawford Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 >> What have the Palestinians done to show that they deserve their own state? << your jewish supremacy and chauvinism is on display for all to witness. what makes you think palestinians have to do something according to your criteria to deserve their own state? you just spoke of the founders. wasn't it the founders who said, "...that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." the palestinians have a right to self-determination, and they have the right to fight for that right, just as my founding fathers did. >> Using their own children to explode Israeli babies is not a convincing argument of their worthiness for self-rule. << you just painted the palestinians with a broad brush. let's not be hypocritical here. if it's not ok to say that all jews are racist, zionist, communists, you can't say that all palestinians support suicide bombings. as for the methods of the suicide bombers not being a convincing argument, let's just turn the tables a bit and tell the truth! jewish terrorists were the ones who drove the british out of palestine by blowing up the king david hotel (a british hq), killing 91 people and injuring nearly 50 more! they held workers at gunpoint while planting the explosives. the jews committed many more acts of terrorism in the ensuing months leading up to the war for independence. jewish terrorists bombed several police stations, killing more brits and arabs, and injuring dozens more. jews kidnapped and murdered british military personnel. going back a few decades, jews made a deal with the british that if they used their powerful influence in america to drag the united states into the great war, that balfour would make his famous declaration declaring support of a jewish state. that's exactly what they did. so why don't you tell us what jews did to deserve their own jewish state! of course even after they got their state like they wanted, the terrorism never stopped. jews deliberately murdered tens of thousands of arabs and even terrorized innocent americans, trying to make it look as if the arabs committed the atrocities, so as to drag america into the age old conflict on the side of the israelis and against the arabs. ever heard of the attack on the u.s.s. liberty? ever heard of the lavon incident? israeli terrorism continues to this day. they torture thousands of palestinians. they take their land. they start conflicts and actually look to encourage terrorism so they can have the apparent moral justification to go rampaging through palestinian territory and further their imperialistic land grab! of course the many acts of treachery and terrorism committed on behalf of israel conveniently get glossed over in the mainstream press -- because zionist jews own and control it!