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To: greenspirit who wrote (276422)	7/16/2002 5:56:08 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

In the 56 War, Israel attacked Egypt first. In the 67 War, Israel attacked first and called it a pre-emptive strike---something like a Pearl Harbor! So again you lie, scummy Cummings!

To: greenspirit who wrote (276422)	7/16/2002 5:59:09 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 769667

The Jews don't attack other people first. In each of the wars since the Jewish state began, it was the Arabs who attacked Israel first. Arab nations also (until very recently) openly professed as their goal the destruction of the state of Israel. Minor correction. In the 1956 war, Britain, France, and Israel attacked Egypt. Israel fear was that Egypt would use control of the Suez Canal to choke it to death- -most likely fully justified. In the 1967 war, Israel attacked first. HOWEVER, the Arab states had been massing their armies at its borders for some time. It was perfectly clear tey intended to attack. Israel decided to take the initiative. In the 1973 war, Israel did not attack first- -and almost lost.

To: greenspirit who wrote (276422)	7/16/2002 6:55:38 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

>> If the Jews in Israel truly didn't care about innocent women and children being hurt, they would have launched massive attacks against Palestinians and destroyed everyone of them in a few days << don't be ridiculous! then their imperialistic and oppressive ways would be on display for the whole world to see. much better to drive out the palestinians a little at a time, under the guise of defending their security. >> If the leaders of Hamma's or Palestine had the same weapons as Israel, we would be looking at genocide similar to what happened in Germany. << this is a whole different can of worms. we can argue about the exaggerations of the holocaust some other time. suffice it to say that if the majority of palestinians and the entire arab world want to destroy israel that badly, even if it means committing suicide to do it, it's pretty obvious that israel must not be peacefully minding its own business. >> The Jews don't attack other people first. In each of the wars since the Jewish state began, it was the Arabs who attacked Israel first<< liar, liar pants on fire! >> Arab nations also (until very recently) openly professed as their goal the destruction of the state of Israel. << israel is no better, not wishing to give the palestinians a state of their own either. they are actively seeking to drive the palestinians out of the remaining settlements in an effort to force their absorption into other arab countries. many zionists openly express this. >> He was the one who viciously attacked Kuwait << hah! viciously attacked kuwait? the united states government gave him the go ahead to go do it! kuwait used to be part of iraq! did you know that? apparently it is ok for the united states to march right in and take florida from the spanish but iraq can't go in and take kuwait back! that is the hypocrisy of america which explains why we are so hated and breed so much resentment. colonial powers have annexed land all throughout history! it was ok for us but now we get to decide it's not ok for saddam. >> An Arab brother murdered other Arab brothers. Why? Was he following the teachings of the Koran? Or was he just a power hungry thug? << so what if saddam is a power-hungry thug? they exist all over the world throughout history! john quincy adams said, we "out not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." the jews will make sure that advice is not followed. >> The U.S. was simply pretecting its interests and preventing a megalamaniac from controlling 40% of the worlds oil reserves. << you mean the US was protecting israel's interests. israel wants an excuse to cause a rift between saddam hussein and the united states so we will take out an avowed enemy of theirs. they want to have the united states go take him out instead of doing the job themselves, so the entire arab world can focus their anger on us instead of them. saddam is no fool, he knows the israelis are behind this, and that's why he launched scuds at israel during the gulf war. >> It's quite obvious you're not "equally" disgusted by the focus of your posting here << everything i post here i try to honestly frame in the best interests of my country. i'm not thinking of what's best for israel or palestine. it just so happens that the best thing for my country is to break the jewish grip which entangles us in these irreconcilable conflicts. >> You're much more disgusted with Jews and the state of Israel. << of course! arabs and muslims would have no beef with the united states if it wasn't for our unabashed and inseparable ties to israel! why are we so entangled and enmeshed with israel? because of powerful jews in america who have a treacherous allegiance to the zionist state. they have a dual allegiance which is unamerican and traitorous.