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To: Joe NYC who wrote (85298)7/18/2002 3:51:22 AM
From: Joe NYCRespond to of 275872
 
Some info from Platform Conference:

Itanic OEM slams Itanic
By Andrew Orlowski in London
Posted: 17/07/2002 at 22:25 GMT

NEC's chief architect Len Tsai launched an astonishing attack on Intel's Itanium processor at Bert McComas' Platforms Conference in San Jose today.

Tsai stunned the room by describing Intel's approach as "brute force", and predicted that learning the new instruction set would take "half a generation". He said NEC - which shipped its Itanic2 servers last week, had not seen any demand for the ten-year old processor.

Maybe Tsai is simply feeling unloved According to one Register reader within earshot of Tsai today, NEC is unhappy that Hewlett Packard - which co-developed the Itanic with Intel - gets preferential access to Itanium technology.
theregister.co.uk

Panel debates the merits of Itanium

By Ashlee Vance
July 17, 2002 1:04 pm PT


SAN JOSE, CALIF. - A panel of chip experts took aim at Intel's Itanium processor at a conference Tuesday with rivals and even an Itanium server seller saying a transition to the new chip will take many years and will require huge investments in both money and time.

Executives from Sun Microsystems, Advanced Micro Devices, NEC, and Hewlett-Packard gathered at the Platform Conference here to debate the merits of 64-bit processors and battle over which vendor architectures will dominate the market over the next few years.
Panel debates the merits of Itanium

...Brookwood predicted that AMD and Intel chips will outperform all of the RISC processors on some industry benchmarks by 2003 and then increase their lead in 2004.

"Industry standard processors will claim the performance lead over proprietary processors like SPARC [Sun] and Power [IBM] in the coming future," Brookwood said.
infoworld.com

Joe



To: Joe NYC who wrote (85298)7/18/2002 7:23:04 AM
From: Neil BoothRespond to of 275872
 
I hope they kill some of the older POS instructions too. WTF have they kept XLAT and other baggage?

With another generation or two they could drop the legacy crap and have a really nice 64-bit instruction set.

Neil.



To: Joe NYC who wrote (85298)7/18/2002 8:31:13 AM
From: TGPTNDRRespond to of 275872
 
Joe, Re: <I don't really expect much to be changed in 90nm Hammer, since it is following so closely behind 130nm versions, except the obvious L2 increases.>

I'm expecting the 90NM version to be *LESS* than a geometric shrink even if no new features are added.

-tgp