To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (53236 ) 7/18/2002 7:14:22 PM From: Lane3 Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 82486 When I was a girl, first dating, my mother's idea of the perfect husband for me was, no, not a doctor, but a Slovak boy who was a good dancer. My mother was quite the party girl, which explains the dance part. But I didn't understand the Slovak part so I asked her. She really didn't have a good answer for me. She babbles something along the lines of common heritage. You're seeming to agree with her that it would have been preferable for me to marry someone else who ate mushrooms, potatoes, and buttermilk on Christmas Eve. I suppose that, all other things considered, that would be a plus, but it's hardly a salient consideration. It may be important for new immigrants, but hardly beyond that. [My waspy, Presbyterian, husband from a Scandinavian family long in this country and several steps up the economic ladder from mine, BTW, just loved that dish and was disappointed I wouldn't make it at any other time of the year.] It's hard to find the perfect person. If you constrain yourself to your own tribe, you're unnecessarily reducing your options, IMO. I think that's dumb. I've dated outside my religion, nationality, and race. It's the individual compatibility that matters. Yes, our cultural backgrounds contribute to the persons we grow up to be so, indirectly, tribe may be a factor. Now this assumes that your family isn't a bunch of bigots who would reject your partner at first glance, of course. Tribe only matters if you choose for it to matter or you can't see past it. Sure we associate with people with whom we are comfortable. There is something wrong, however, with people who are only comfortable with members of their tribe. Certainly in this country. If you can't look at a candidate of a different race or gender or religion or traditions and see that this individual is business-friendly, like you, or places a high priority on good stewardship of the environment, like you, or that the country needs first and foremost a strong defense, like you, then you're a bigot.IMO you deflect attention from the mean-spiritedness and malicious intent which characterize the true meaning of the word. I take your point. I don't consider my mother's wanting me to marry a Slovak in a class with gay bashing or lynching. But every failure to look past the color of someone's skin contributes to a tolerance of bigotry. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. EDIT: BTW, I'm warning you to not extending this discussion to X. She once called ME a bigot. <g>