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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (580)7/18/2002 10:26:59 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 3959
 
Do you think that the US has a role in this by giving Israel massive aid and giving nothing to the Palestenians, thereby keeping them poor and vulnerable to the Islamists. Why do you say it is only the rich Arab states. Why not the G8 nations, who are also rich

Chinu, don't cry for the poor aidless Palestinians, they get tons. Until just recently, the US gave the PA $150 million a year (we are now funnelling our aid through non-PA agencies). The EU gives $200 million a year. The ICRC gives them aid. They have their own UN agency (paid for by US tax dollars, chiefly), with millions on the dole. The Arabs promise lots but give chiefly to Hamas.

Problem is, what is given to Arafat gets stolen. But estimates I've seen say that he has received between 3 and 4 billion dollars in aid since 1993. Quite enough to fund substantial economic development in so small an area as the West Bank and Gaza, if you're interested. But then, Arafat was never interested in economic development. When Peres was Prime Minister, he tried to get Arafat to sign onto an ambitious economic development zone plan that would have channeled economic development to the poorest Arab areas. Arafat wouldn't touch it.

The Palestinians are not poor because they don't get aid. They are poor because their leadership steals half the money, and uses the other half to buy guns and katyushas.

But then, that's been the Arab strategy all along. Keep the Palestinians in misery, and point to them sobbing, "The Jews did this! They must pay!"

They always seem to find a receptive audience somewhere.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (580)7/19/2002 4:40:36 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 3959
 
Tell ya what.... soon Judeofascists will tell us that "ugly Arabs" have covertly taken over Argentina and that some secret clique of Palestinian grafters is currently running the country --hence Argentina's dire predicament....

iht.com

Excerpt:

The meltdown in Argentina shows how the system's weakness persists. It illustrates what can happen to any country when confidence disappears.

While its big neighbor Brazil devalued, Argentina was stuck with its fixed parity to the dollar. It became the most expensive country in the world. It borrowed again and again, and then its economy stopped from one day to the next after a run on the banks.

The Argentine facts are horrendous. An economy whose GDP last year was about $270 billion is down now to maybe $100 billion. Out of 36 million people, more than half are now below the poverty line. Banks do not give credit anymore. Argentina, before our unbelieving eyes, is having a strange experience: proving that a rich and modern country can drop to the bottom of the barrel.

The government has been asking for help from the IMF because it does not know what else to do. But the IMF has no wish to put its head in such a noose.
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