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To: Sully- who wrote (2673)7/19/2002 7:50:55 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Bad Enough

The sentiment pendulum appears to be near a pessimistic extreme. Upside potential over the next six to 12 months exceeds downside risk

businessweek.com



To: Sully- who wrote (2673)7/20/2002 1:08:49 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Respond to of 89467
 
havent seen COMEX pm numbers yet
my guess is some covering by miners
but bear in mind the magnitude involved

AngloGold covered forward contracts in Q1 an amount of gold that equaled the entire 2001 consumption by Japan

naked shorts are simply awesome in magnitude
Rostenko of GoldEagle reported in June that trading activity (size and price) indicated to him that miners were supporting the gold price upon small moves down

very good question, Tex
I believe miners with huge exposure are now busily ramping up their "death point" with adjustments in their futures contracts
they might be pushing out the contracts
they might be selling futures options at higher price points
they might be selling short TBond futures puts as they cover gold contracts

one thing for absolute certain
some derivative events are right over the horizon
in gold, in bonds, in stocks
we have something brewing with JPMorgan
some "guys" are reporting JPM to have zero capital now

what would happen to S&P if JPMorgan suffered an accident?
what would happen to gold?

miners will have to rely on a slow pace in gold price rise
I wonder how much longer they will be given this luxury
personally I would like heavy hedger mining CEO's to be next up on the Congress Shame Parade committee circuit
/ jim



To: Sully- who wrote (2673)7/20/2002 2:34:39 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Oracle's Ellison says U.S. should centralize data

By Judith Crosson

DENVER, July 19 (Reuters) - Larry Ellison, chief executive
of Oracle Corp. <ORCL.O> on Friday renewed his campaign for a
government-initiated database of U.S. medical and criminal
records, the kind of sweeping and controversial project the No.
2 software vendor has offered to undertake before.
"There should be one system," Ellison told some 3,000
attendees at Colorado Gov. Bill Owens' third annual technology
conference in Denver.
A unified system would be both cheaper and safer,
eliminating many of the current problems in health care and
criminal justice, he said.
For example, patients risk adverse drug reactions because
one pharmacy that fills a prescription has no way of knowing
another pharmacy might have provided a second drug that could
make the patient sick if both were taken together.
"Government should take a lead in this so we can stop
killing people," Ellison said.
Centralized database systems would also allow emergency
medical personnel to better treat someone in an accident far
from home and help police departments better track criminals,
he said.
"You're saying 'What a threat to privacy,'" he said to an
audience that seemed sometimes skeptical that such information
could be responsibly entrusted to a single system.

PRIVACY BARTERED FOR CREDIT
But Ellison, who founded Oracle in 1977 after a deal with
the Central Intelligence Agency that helped launch the firm,
said security would be enhanced, not diminished, by
centralizing control of sensitive data.
"You barter 100 percent of your financial privacy in
exchange for credit," he said, referring to credit card
companies' use of central databases to assess credit standing.
Besides, he said, a central database with controls would be
more secure than leaving records at a physician's office where
employees have access to them.
Oracle has maintained close ties to federal, state and
local governments and such contracts make up an estimated 25
percent of its revenue.
In the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the company
joined a partnership to focus on airport security. At one
point, Ellison also offered to supply the government software
to create a national ID system to thwart terrorists.
More recently, Oracle became the center of a controversy
over a major sale of its software to California, after auditors
said the contract was rushed through without competitive
bidding and could end up costing taxpayers too much.
Oracle defended the agreement and produced its own analysis
of the deal to show that it would actually save the state
millions of dollars over the life of the contract.
Oracle shares closed at $9.72 on Friday, less than half of
its 52-week high of $20.
But Ellison mocked the idea that depressed stock prices,
layoffs in technology and the disappearance of scores of
dot-com companies spelled the demise of the information
economy.
"It's just the dawn of the Information Age. You ain't seen
nothing yet," Ellison said.
He also sneaked in a jab at his arch-rival, Microsoft Corp.
<MSFT.O>, and its Chairman Bill Gates.
Oracle has promoted its software as being more secure than
competing alternatives in a bid to take advantage of
Microsoft's recent problems with hackers and viruses exploiting
loopholes in its software.
In the early months of the year, Microsoft interrupted
software development work and sent engineers on special
training at a cost of at least $100 million to improve
security.
But Ellison noted that Microsoft's high-profile
"stand-down" had come largely in February, "The shortest month
of the year," he quipped.
((Denver bureau 303-820-3900))
REUTERS
*** end of story ***



To: Sully- who wrote (2673)7/20/2002 2:11:19 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
More Selling, but Snapback Seen on Street

By Brendan Intindola
Saturday July 20, 9:38 am Eastern Time

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Expect no reprieve, as the stock market is likely to get shellacked next week by more languid earnings and deep-seated investor mistrust.

"The mood is just horrible. There is one crisis after another. Anything people can point to as a negative they are jumping all over it," said Mike Driscoll, a Bear Stearns managing director of listed trading. "Markets tend to go to extremes, and I am seeing a lot of good companies that are being completely annihilated without reason."

But the pros won't rule out a reversal, as each rout to lows dating back to 1997 makes prices more alluring. The result, they say, could be a market that finishes the last full week of July unchanged, or with a minor loss.

Still, a small decline could offer some comfort for investors stunned by the Dow's nearly 1,400-point drop since July 5, a span in which it fell nine days out of 10.

On Friday, the Dow Jones industrial average logged its seventh-largest points decline, falling nearly 400 points. The rout was led by health products giant Johnson & Johnson, which said U.S. regulators are probing allegations of fraudulent record-keeping at a Puerto Rico plant. The stock fell 16 percent.

The rush of corporate earnings reports continues in one of the busiest weeks of the reporting period. So far, the mountain of numbers and forecasts digested by investors every 90 days has stoked the July meltdown. It is not so much the results that have weighed, but the dim outlook for the future.

"Valuations matter, and they have been improving," said Thomas McManus, strategist at Banc of America Securities. "Now we are starting to see bargains popping up, good companies available at prices you would not have considered possible in some time."

One example, he said, is Automatic Data Processing Inc. . On Thursday, ADP shares surrendered almost a quarter of their value, dropping to a 1998 low, after the No. 1 U.S. payroll-services company warned of slower profit growth ahead.

"Here is a steady business, steady cash flow, rising dividend," McManus said, "ADP has been in business for 41 years, and it is an outstanding company."

MAGAZINE COVER GRRRRRL

Need another reason for emergent optimism? The latest issue of BusinessWeek magazine has a toothy, roaring bear on the cover. This in the past been a contrarian indicator, a harbinger of a turn in market sentiment.

If the bear's prowl widens to more general news publications, such as Time magazine or Newsweek, investors should take that as even more encouragement to get back into stocks, McManus said.

"I think that the market is trying to form some form of tradable bottom," said Jeffrey Saut, Raymond James Financial chief investment strategist. For next week, he said he expects the market to "make a low and trade higher."

"Everything was OK until clients got their monthly statements a week ago. They saw the stealth decline in June, which was relentless ... and they dialed up 1-800-GET-ME-OUT," Saut said.

The Dow fell 9.4 percent in June, the worst month since a 10.5 percent drop in February. In July, the Dow has declined 13.2 percent, as investors fled from equities and there was little sign of a let-up.

Jack Francis, a senior Nasdaq trader at UBS Warburg, noted: "There were $11.4 billion in mutual fund outflows last week. That is monstrous, and selling begets selling.

Most of the earnings being reported by technology companies in general met analyst expectations, but Francis said their lowering of earning forecasts fueled pessimism on Wall Street.

EXPLODING BOTTOM

For evidence of a lasting market turn, Kevin Lane, chief market strategist at Technimentals Research Group in New York, will be looking at market breadth, which is the ratio of rising stocks to decliners.

The recent drop in stocks, he said, differs from the panic sell-off last September. In trading immediately after the attacks on the United States, stocks tumbled to three-year lows, but after a week of heavy selling, the breadth improved.

"Institutions on the buy side (like mutual funds) are not showing any confidence or conviction," Lane said. "Last September, we saw big surges in gainers versus decliners, we saw institutions step back into the market. Now, you are not seeing anyone step up with confidence or conviction."

While he waits for such an "explosion off the bottom" -- a day where rising volume beats down volume by at least a 10 to 1 ratio -- he said he sees a telling parallel between the surging market of early 2000 and today's near-constant declines.

"There seems to be that last leg of the bear market. We are getting the mirror image of the bull market, when stocks were going up every day, seeming like they would never stop," he said.

The blue-chip Dow index closed at its lowest level since October 1998, finishing the week with a drop of 7.8 percent, pushing it back into bear territory. The Standard & Poor's 500 ended the week down 8 percent and at a new 1997 low, and the Nasdaq composite finished the week off 4 percent.

So far this year, the Dow is off 20 percent, the S&P has surrendered 26.2 percent and the Nasdaq has tumbled 32.4 percent.

NUMBERS ON DECK

Earning will again dominate equity news, with a slew of results this week representing the quarter's peak.

On Monday, American Express Co., 3M Co. and Texas Instruments are due to announce results.

Tuesday brings AT&T Corp., Amazon.com and Gillette Co., followed by Anheuser-Busch and AOL Time Warner on Wednesday.

Thursday, look for earnings from Viacom, American International Group and Eastman Kodak .