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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (278267)	7/20/2002 10:30:06 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 769667

Mossad agents document 9//11 ! (How did these Israeli agents find themselves in the perfect spot, with all the equipment ready at hand, to document the tragedy? And, exactly what was it about this horrible tragedy that made these agents rejoice as they videoed the incident?) We Are Not Your Problem According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned. One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation. After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a warrant and searched Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices. The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone. Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse. The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (278267)	7/20/2002 10:38:47 AM
From: Scumbria	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

A very nasty video Bin Laden gives the game away guardian.co.uk Short of hearing the chief suspect give a full confession for the attacks in person in open court, the remarkable new video footage of Osama bin Laden is as close as the world is now likely to get to finding a man holding the smoking gun for the deeds of September 11. "We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy who would be killed." "Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for." Maybe this is all mere bravado, rather than the arrogant and evil talk of a man who seems all the time to be courting martyrdom. But there can be very few honest people who will watch the new footage and fail to conclude that Bin Laden is precisely the prime suspect that the United States has always said he is. The video tells us about other things than Bin Laden's probable guilt, however. When one has got past the thought that the most wanted man in the world is willing to discuss his crimes with Saudi visitors armed only with a video camera, the next most striking thing is how firmly the conversation is saturated in religious fanaticism, in the world of the imagination and in very specific Saudi preoccupations. Bin Laden speaks in riddles, rhymes and religious verses, but his final words - "We will not stop our raids until you free our lands" - are a reminder that his agenda is not focused as much on attacking America as on getting the Americans out of Saudi Arabia. Nevertheless, this video is likely to help undermine Bin Laden's reputation in the Muslim world as well as to further blacken it in the already hostile west. Muslims who were confident that the case against Bin Laden was just a flimsy excuse for American aggression, and that the true perpetrators of September 11 were the Americans themselves, or the Israeli secret service, or anyone but a Muslim - and there were millions of such people from Luton to Lahore - will find those fantasies that bit harder to sustain to themselves today. Those who are already in thrall to Bin Laden's mystique will brush these difficulties aside. But there is no reason to believe that the average rational Muslim will not be just as persuaded by the evidence of the video as the average rational non-Muslim.