To: GTC Trader who wrote (13056 ) 7/22/2002 3:24:06 AM From: 2MAR$ Respond to of 28931 Your hatred for the Jewish race seems to be the overriding issue here. As I have already posted, they were not a sinless race by any means. God chose them as His instrument to communicate the Gospel to the world and to bring forth the Savior Jesus Christ. Wait a minute my friend....I have no hatred for the Jewish race whatsoever by communicating to you of their extreme warlike tendencies and irrascibility in those times ...or the fictitiousness of the bible , both new and old . Have you ever picked up a real History book ? You see a Jewish king crucifying 800 fellow jewish men , women and children in one evening 80yrs BCE in Jerusalem while he plays with his women and drinks wine and looks on. Yes , my statement of Jewish violence and idolatry still stands , as well as Christian idolatry , ignorance and violence too. The history of Christianity reads like a bloodbath , if you were honest with yourself and your God . So what is the missing ingredient ? Your previous statements of how innocent Christians are , that they have not tied bombs around their waist and killed innocent muslims ...always turning the other cheek and loving their neighbors etc , is pure fantasy . There has been a rennaisance of sorts thru democracy and the writings of many great teachers, philosophers , scientists, humanist, literary genious, artists that have added a new body of scripture, knowledge , to the legacy of our race on earth. Especially a great deal of growth happening from out of the lessons of the lasr century. This comes from without Christianty good sir... You have the crusades to consider , and the rest of the entire colonial periods of Christian/European history up to our engagement in Vietnam , which to one degree was an attempt to "Christianize" southeast Asia. A very bitter lesson learned there . But the stealing of lands and resources and making slaves out of less developed peoples around the world was more modern than the cruades now wasn't it ? It's been a difficult world enough without the Christian doctrine encouraging overpopulation...and it's ongoing holy crusades . From the ecclesiastical barbarism of the 16th Century on . And just what the poor of the world need , is another Benny Hinn evangelist and his magic Christian traveling "Biblical Show" assaulting other impoverished cultures of the world , and impacting their lives with needless guilt and fear, and Holy-rolling Christian scriptural rubbish and phoniness. What Christianity has gotten away with in the name of God or Jesus sometimes could make you cringe. regards Mars