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To: SOROS who wrote (97303)7/22/2002 10:17:30 PM
From: sylvester80  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 99280
 
July 22, 2002 - ARE STOCKS UNDERVALUED OR EARNINGS OVERSTATED?

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Last week, I was in the air and on the road visiting with institutional equity portfolio
managers in Milwaukee, Madison, Chicago, and Denver. I read the financial newspapers on
the flights between cities. I don’t recall so much pessimism about both the short-term and
long-term outlook for stocks. My three favorite technical indicators—1) the bull/bear ratio
of investment advisory letters, 2) the ratio of the S&P 500 to its 200-day moving average,
and 3) the percentage of New York Stock Exchange stocks above their 30-day moving
averages—show that sentiment is at extremely pessimistic levels that often preceded rallies
in the past (Figure 1). All we probably need now to make a major bottom in the stock
market is to have a leading weekly financial magazine write a cover story titled “The Death
of Equities.”
The Value Of Earnings. Not surprisingly the barrage of bad news has depressed the
investors I visited during my latest marketing trip. Of course, it seems investors everywhere
are worrying that earnings reports can’t be trusted. If we can’t trust the accuracy, quality,
and accounting of earnings, how can we value the earnings numbers reported by
companies and the forecasts provided by industry analysts?

Industry analysts are currently predicting that S&P 500 earnings should be $51.36 per
share this year and $61.19 per share next year. These numbers imply that 52-week forward
consensus expected earnings—i.e., the time-weighted average of this year’s and next year’s
estimates—is currently $56.46 per share (Figure 2). Last week, Coke and Boeing
announced that they will be expensing stock options from now on. If other companies start
doing so as well, either voluntarily or because of rules imposed on them by government
regulators, then earnings would be reduced by the calculated value of the options.
Furthermore, companies may soon have to lower their actuarial assumptions for the rate of
return they are likely to earn on pension assets. This would also depress earnings. Other
adjustments to improve the quality of earnings reports might also lower earnings.

In my view, investors aren’t waiting for companies to make the changes. They aren’t waiting
for analysts either. Investors are already making these adjustments by lowering the
valuation multiples they are willing to pay for the earnings reported by companies and
predicted by analysts. At the end of March, investors were willing to pay 20.7 times forward
earnings. Now they are paying only 15.6 times. In the Fed’s Stock Valuation Model (FSVM),
the fair-value forward P/E is simply the reciprocal of the 10-year Treasury bond yield. It is
currently 21.5 (Figure 3). In other words, stocks are 27% undervalued according to the
model (Figure 4).


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To: SOROS who wrote (97303)7/22/2002 10:29:07 PM
From: sylvester80  Respond to of 99280
 
BTW, what was the 10 year treasury bond yield in 73-74? What is it now? What was inflation then? What is it now?

Oh, and since I'm primarily a day trader, long term ups or downs don't mean sh*t to me. However, the longer this drags on, the more bullish I get, to the point of wanting to deploy some major swing long positions on QQQ and SPY and may do that as soon as tomorrow or Wed. On the issue of gold, as I said before, it wasn't me who has been saying gold stocks would benefit on the recent stock downturn. In fact, they haven't. So don't blame me for it.

Good luck with your trades.



To: SOROS who wrote (97303)7/23/2002 5:07:27 AM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 99280
 
But interest rates were MUCH higher in 1974 than they are now. We probably will go lower still over after the next bear bounce (looks to be starting today), but a 10 P/E is not in the cards IMHO.