BIG PICTURE: Does Stock Market Gloom Doom Economy?
23 Jul 13:55 By John McAuley Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Economists had been arguing that the stock market's decline of the past year was disconnected from a more buoyant economic reality.
It would be up to the market, they said, to adjust upward to bring the two variables closer into line.
But in light of the transition in the past couple of weeks from an equities decline to a plunge, some economists are modifying their outlook to incorporate stock market effects into their economic forecasts. These forecasters now think the economy will also have to do its bit to get more in line with a harsher reality suggested by the stock market.
"The problem is we're waiting for another shoe to drop," said Joe LaVorgna, senior economist at Deutsche Bank. "While there might be a disconnect from the economic data to the stock market, we worry that the ongoing fall will nip what we have been believing would be a decent economic expansion." Like many other economists, LaVorgna is reluctant to make a big change in his forecast, yet. But there's been a big change in stock market behavior.
"Until two weeks ago, it was a very orderly selloff," he said. "If the stock market turns around, we could be back to where we were a month ago." Other economists, like LaVorgna, are reluctant to react too suddenly to a market move that could turn out to be a blip.
"I think a big (negative) impact on the economy is possible, but not very likely," said Henry Willmore, chief U.S. economist at Barclay's Capital. "The main influence is overwhelmingly from the economy to the stock market." Willmore's forecast is for a 5.0% rate of gross domestic product growth in the current quarter and 3.0% in fourth quarter.
" I haven't changed my forecast, I don't think these short-term moves mean very much. I certainly didn't when the stock market declined after Sept. 11," he said.
Sands AreShifting
The sanguinity that economists had been showing, however, is definitely eroding.
"We haven't changed anything yet," said Jim O'Sullivan, senior U.S. economist at UBS Warburg. "It's not that the stock market doesn't matter, it's just that we don't want to be changing the forecast every week." A key reason why O'Sullivan has held off altering his forecast is that he still sees offsetting positives.
"There's still some offset from the low level of interest rates and there has been fairly positive momentum in the economic numbers that hasn't been derailed yet." Finally, while far from a slave to econometric models based on history, O'Sullivan does cite the Federal Reserve's macroeconomic model that shows, based on historical behavior, that a 20% decline in the stock market, by itself, shows up as a 0.4 percentage point decline in GDP growth in the first year.
"I'm inclined to think that result understates the effect, but it also doesn't take into consideration the offsetting softness in interest rates," concludes O'Sullivan. Lower interest rates have fueled a strong rally in home prices, which has boosted households' wealth at the same time that the stock declines have cut into it.
Some other economists are more worried, however, that the decline that we've already seen is enough to chip away at the recovery.
"When the stock market plunges as much as it has, it clearly hurts confidence and has a negative wealth effect," said Sung Won Sohn, chief economist at Wells Fargo. "I think that there are already some real consequences." Sohn notes that business confidence has been hurt more than consumer confidence and that as a result the cost of capital has gone up and some capital spending and hiring decisions have been delayed.
"Consumers have been less affected so far. The last Fed consumer study found the average household only owned $11,500 in stocks. They have a much greater stake in their homes," Sohn said.
Nevertheless, the changes he has made to his forecast are still relatively cosmetic: lowering third quarter GDP growth to 2% from 3% and trimming fourth quarter growth to 3% from 3.5%.
Transmission From Stocks To Real Estate
A more pronounced change is noticeable in the outlook of other economists, who until recently were economic bulls and have now become more bearish.
"Up until last week I wasn't worried by the second quarter stock market decline, but the drop in July is beginning to worry me," said Ram Bhagavatula, chief economist at the Royal Bank of Scotland in New York.
The reason Bhagavatula is worried is that he believes credit tightening is beginning to take place. "The commercial paper market has dried up unless you're rated Triple-A and banks have already taken hits on Enron and WorldCom.
It's like 1992-93 when credit tightness caused the `head winds' that (Fed Chairman) Greenspan referred to." Moreover, he's worried that the decline in one asset market - the stock market - could transmit to the another asset market - that of residential real estate.
"Unless the S&P 500 can climb back over 900, fourth quarter GDP growth is at great risk, possibly of only 1.5%" concludes Bhagavatula.
Another economist who was until recently been an optimist but who is now hedging his bets is Jim Glassman, senior economist at JPMorgan Securities.
"I think the Fed is keeping interest rates lower than they otherwise would for a longer period," Glassman said. "I feel like the window of danger is the fall. If the economy keeps cruising along, however, people will begin to talk about the interest rate effects being greater than the wealth effects." "The test that the worst will be over will come when we start talking about the interest rates are in the wrong zipcode and need to be pushed higher," said Glassman.
-By John McAuley, Dow Jones Newswire, 201-938-4425; john.mcauley@dowjones.com
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