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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (34953)	7/24/2002 8:02:02 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

internal contradictions: Israel is very good at winning conventional WWII-type wars. Tank battles, lines in the sand. OTOH, they lost a war in Lebanon, and are losing the same kind of guerrila/attrition war in the Occupied Territories. So, the way to win, is to convert the war into the kind they can win: Separate the populations, unilaterally decide the frontiers (giving the Palestinians enough so they can have a viable State), and then defend that frontier using conventional methods. If Israel truly intends on holding onto all of Jerusalem, then they should have expelled the Palestinians from E. Jerusalem, in 1967. If they think the Temple Mount is theirs, then they should have done what the Moslems did, when they first conquered in the 8th Century: tear down the Mosque, and rebuild the Temple. If they had done that in 1967, the world would have been outraged, but by now everyone would be used to the idea, and the idea of Moslem rights to Jerusalem or the Temple Mount would have slowly (very slowly) faded. And, if Israel truly intends on holding onto all the West Bank, and all their settlements there, they should expell the Moslems (all of them) into Jordan. They cannot govern a hostile conquered population of Arabs forever. They cannot win a guerrila war; the methods they use are counter-productive, just increasing Palestinian support for Hamas. They are figuring this out, slowly and painfully. The recent plans for a Wall separating Jews and Arabs, is an indication of Reality finally intruding on the Zionist Dream (the Dream that Jews could (re)-settle their homeland, the same way Europeans had settled the Americas; TakeWhatYouWantAndIgnoreOrKillTheNatives.) Alternately, if Israel doesn't intend on permanently holding onto all the settlements, then why spend blood every day defending them? <<It is true that Arab Israelis suffer discrimination>> Yes, they live in a nation set up explicitly as a homeland for someone else. Every Israeli law, every regulation, the decision of every private and public agency, flows from that basic reality. Economic needs (for markets and jobs) are why Arabs would rather be on the "right" side of the Wall. They are under Israili occupation, either way. But, sooner or later, they will rebel, for the same reasons all conquered people do. <<population transfer will be called "ethnic cleansing" if the Israelis do it>> No matter who calls it what, 10 years after it's been done, the world will have accepted it, and moved on to the next crisis. Who today remembers, or cares, what the Turks did to the Armenians, or what Andrew Jackson did to the Cherokee? BTW, have you seen any map, of where the Wall is being built?