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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (280299)7/25/2002 11:45:28 AM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 769670
 
I wouldn't assume it was safe to sneak into his house now if I were you.

What do you believe is behind Ish's recent disavowal that he is NOT a gun nut,



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (280299)7/25/2002 12:13:45 PM
From: moby_dick  Respond to of 769670
 
"Perhaps his mailman reported him to the authorities?"

LOL - classic - LOL



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (280299)7/25/2002 12:19:22 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Some people are looking forward to spying on Americans for America:

'I'm happy to spy for America'
By Charles Laurence in New York
(Filed: 21/07/2002)
An army of volunteers is lining up behind President George W Bush in his attempt to build an American "home guard" against terror, ignoring the protests of civil liberties groups who have criticised the plan as granting the state a licence to snoop.
Postal workers, doormen, television company "cable guys", delivery truck drivers and local shopkeepers are being recruited to become the "eyes and ears" of American domestic security - and they are showing overwhelming enthusiasm for the scheme, called Operation Tips (Terrorism Information and Prevention System).
Tips starts next month as Justice Department officials begin recruiting a million Americans for the initial pilot programme in the country's 10 largest cities.
The Justice Department has said that it wants to recruit workers whose "routines are ideally suited to help in the anti-terrorism effort because they allow them to recognise unusual events".
A national telephone hotline and a network of intelligence "reporting centres" are being set up for the scheme.
Officials are currently on their way to the 10 target cities to set up training centres. Recruits will be given lectures on what to look for and how to report suspicious persons, activities and objects.
Each delivery vehicle on an Operation Tips fleet will be issued a bumper sticker advertising a free phone number to encourage other members of the public to join in.
The plan has divided America, drawing fierce criticism from liberals and civil liberties movements.
Opponents have calculated that Operation Tips will create one "spy" for every 24 citizens, a ratio that critics point out is higher than that of the Stasi secret police in the former East Germany.
Many liberal commentators have drawn parallels with the climate of fear and suspicion during the McCarthy purges of suspected Communists and Soviet sympathisers in the 1950s.
Dennis Kucinich, a leading Ohio Democrat on the Congressional National Security Oversight Committee, denounced the scheme, arguing that it would transform America from "an information society to an informant society".
The president of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Nadine Strossen, said that President Bush was "fearmongering".
John Mason, a professor of political science at William Paterson University in New Jersey, said: "It is not going to do anything useful, and it is about maintaining a climate of fear, a sort of mobilisation for war. It has a lot to do with politics and it gives the general public a way of participating in a war without a visible enemy. But it will end up wasting everyone's time."
On the streets of New York, however, reaction has been overwhelmingly positive. "I think the critics are making a big mistake. I would be happy to do some spying. I would love to do something to help America," said Wilma Silva, a postwoman, as she drove her delivery van down Broadway.
A few blocks down the street, Douglas Hannah was delivering Coca-Cola to a local grocery store, a job that for 10 years has taken him in and out of the sort of corner stores often owned by the immigrants targeted in the anti-Islamic backlash that followed the Twin Towers attack.
"Yes, I sure would join this operation," he said. "I would be very happy to keep an eye on suspicious activities and suspicious people, and I would not feel uncomfortable about it at all."
In a Federal Express delivery van around the corner on Bleecker Street, Arpad Dozzy, an American-born son of Hungarian immigrants who had fled communism, put it simply.
"We need to do this," he said. "We need to watch for them, watch for anything out of the ordinary. And you know what? If you have done nothing wrong, you don't have to worry about being spied on."



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (280299)7/25/2002 12:23:39 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
<<What do you believe is behind Ish's recent disavowal that he is NOT a gun nut, after claiming for years that he owns guns aplenty and thousands of rounds of ammo?>>

I'd say it's none of your business.



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (280299)7/25/2002 1:40:24 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
What disavowal.....???
I don't believe Ish ever claimed he was a "gun nut", whatever that is....

You demolib pinheads are so silly....