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To: Barry who wrote (4341)	7/27/2002 1:25:09 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 95531

Jail for Morgan? Are you kidding or serious? Few CEO's have done more for shareholders in creating wealth, and yet Morgan is nowehere to be found on any of the Richest Persons lists. Warren Buffett vs. James Morgan: quote.yahoo.com I am not defending the misuse of granting of options; they should be brought in check as in many(most?) cases the shareholders are unfairly punished. But are we to jump from one extreme of not expensing options to expensing them overnight? In this tinderbox market environment, this is probably not a good idea. If it is to be done at all, it should be implemented gradually over a number of years. This is just MHO, but it only seems prudent to attempt to contain the number of variables which may have people running for the exits all at once. You may wind up with the very people getting stampeded who you are trying to help(ie small shareholders). Brian

To: Barry who wrote (4341)	7/27/2002 4:49:20 PM
From: StanX Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95531

Berry your comment, "Morgan should be put in jail", does offend me and maybe others. As you are a lurker, please consider which thread you use for bashing a good man. Some of us here see Morgan as an industrial leader, no Enron here. If Morgan belongs in jail, there is a very, very long line ahead of him. This line would have Martha, Anderson, Enron, Williams, Tyco, AOL, even IBM's books had worst implication with their accounting over the stock option issue. Stock options are employee incentives. Should Jerry Sanders go to jail when his company spends millions on a company wide parties hiring Bruce Springsteen at Mosconi Center, just another incentives. How about Great America Days for Ray Chem (before Tyco bought them). The actual cost a company pays for their employees' stock options is less than one Springsteen gig. You may not agree, but no reply is needed. Good luck Stan

To: Barry who wrote (4341)	7/27/2002 8:52:15 PM
From: Cary Salsberg	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95531

RE: "...and poor for shareholders." Obviously, you are NOT talking about AMAT shareholders. How do you compensate AMAT management for building the best technology company in the world? Attack them because other less competent, less honest managers tried to equal their success through malfeasance and fraud? Morgan represents most managers and workers in successful Silicon Valley companies. Attacking options in Silicon Valley will not prevent another Enron or Worldcom.