To: Snowshoe who wrote (119 ) 7/27/2002 9:27:58 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 867 Hi Snowshoe, <<So here's my basic question: Given this hugely complicated gold derivative problem that directly involves a lot of major governments, why do you think they'll lose and you'll win?>> I do not think I will win. I merely suspect it. I add slowly, as the governments lose, and they are losing, starting at the Argentine periphery, progressing to the NYSE epi-center.Message 14861804 "As George Soros had said in 1998 right before the massive HK market intervention, "this time it is on the periphery, next time the center"." <<If they need the price of gold to stay down for 24 years until the hedges are unwound, wouldn't it make more sense for us to invest in something else?>> THEY also needed Nasdaq, DJIA and SnP to stay up, and boot up Nikkei, along with USD, over JYen ... etc. They need a lot of things to happen, concurrently, even while trying to dance the WAT-WOT-whatnot choreographed steps, walk and chew gum, and talk out of both sides of their face, keep the retainer in place and not sh*t in their pants while sneezing. Folks do not get what they want, always.Message 16932913 "... while I was younger still, I had a most strange experience that may relate to all the thread comments on Mr. Bush’s recent encounter with the carpet. I was at the time suffering from mild food poisoning. I had my dental retainer firmly lodged in my mouth. I was taking a vicious p*ss. I felt a sneeze coming on. My brain went into parallel processing mode in response, and I tried to suppress the sneeze even as I pushed my tongue against the retainer to prevent it from dislodging into the toilet should I fail to suppress the sneeze. I thought I had the entire spectrum of possibilities covered, tongue in cheek, as it were. Strangely, the sequence of events resulted in a twisted tongue muscle (very painful), dental retainer dislodged into the toilet (very yucky), and other messy happenings you can well imagine, requiring a change of clothing and copious application of the household product Mr. Clean. No pretzel was involved, as far as I recall" They get what they deserve, sometimes. <<Heck, back in the thirties they confiscated most of the U.S. gold.>> Stop talking dirty! YES! Should this day happen again, I will take a month-long holiday in Bora Bora, at the best hotel, in a water lodge, have breakfast in bed every day, while a live quartet plays outside on the balcony, and appreciate the true nature of the universe and all its fractal-scaled constructs. Chugs, Jay