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To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (168794)7/28/2002 3:06:49 PM
From: Gary Kao  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
If your numbers are accurate, wouldn't that use up most of AMD's available cash left...but where did you get the $600 million from?? Since Saifun isn't a massive fab, I would be surprised if their IP can be readily valued to such proportions?!!

thanks in advance for your info,

Gary



To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (168794)7/28/2002 9:31:36 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: I think AMD will have to pay $600 million plus royalties to settle the lawsuit

AMD, which earns more patents each year than Intel, evidently had a number of patents that were being violated by Saifun. Faced with a counter suit, Saifun apparently agreed to a cross license. If there were any payments, they were small, and may not have been from AMD to Saifun - if you have any more details, I'd be interested in hearing them.

What are your thoughts on the P4 thermal problem?

The specifications of the 2.4GHz Pentium 4 remain the same as its 0.13-micron predecessors; the only change is the new clock multiplier (24.0x). This means that the chip still operates at 1.5V, and now consumes 57.8 watts of power. In comparison, Intel’s 2.0GHz Willamette Pentium 4 processor generated 75.3 watts....
.....of course, with lower power consumption, the amount of heat generated by the Northwood Pentium 4 should be reduced. We say “should be” because we were surprised to find that our Northwood core got up to temperatures as high as 49 degrees Celsius when running under heavy load.

sms.am

P4 Northwood has a max temp of 68C to 71C (depending on model) and similar power consumption to Thoroughbred. If you allow a 10C margin for measurement variations, then the max temp you would want to see in your monitoring software is 61C, meaning that you could be looking at problems with your PC if the room temperature hits 93 degrees Fahrenheit - or if your PC is under a desk, or crammed into the corner of a cubicle.

AMD's more robust and reliable Athlons are specified within normal operating conditions at temps of 85C to 95C (depending on the chip) - meaning a a PC using an Athlon chip will be a reliable machine in conditions far tougher than those that will cause P4 to corrupt data or fail completely.



To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (168794)7/31/2002 12:07:57 PM
From: muzosi  Respond to of 186894
 
paul, you are such a liar. where did you come up with that $600M ? here are the actual numbers apparently:

haaretzdaily.com

It seems $27.5M upfront plus approx $5M/annum for AMD.