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To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (168803)7/28/2002 10:58:31 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: both the BIOS and the ASUS PC Probe utility report the 2.63 GHz Pentium 4 to be running at 42C

That's at idle, and it's already within 28 degrees of failure. And P4s warm up more than Athlons do under load. Run some programs and the temp will go up by about 8 degrees (Average operating temps for 533 in an average case at typical room temps would be 27-30c system, 35-44c idle with stock Intel hs bbs.pcstats.com ) put the box under a desk and you'll gain about 10 degrees, let some dust at the system and you'll start seeing crashes.

Now let's consider an Athlon 2200+. Mine runs at 43C idle, 46.5C when benchmarking - with an ultra quiet, 3500RPM fan on the heatsink. But, even though the 2200+ has the lowest speced thermal range of the Athlons, it is still comfortable running 15C warmer than a P4. So I have 10C more headroom (18 degrees Fahrenheit) than a P4 system. AMD's boxed CPUs come with 6000RPM fans so they would run cooler than my system (but wouldn't be as whisper quiet).



To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (168803)7/28/2002 10:59:31 PM
From: Yousef  Respond to of 186894
 
Monica,

Re: " ... now compare that to the AMD parts. A 1200 MHz Athlon Thunderbird
running at its rated 1200 MHz speed using two fans (one on the processor
and one on the front of the case) runs at 50C/122F."

Sounds like an AMD "thermal brick" to me. <ggg>

Make It So,
Yousef