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To: paul_philp who wrote (35227)	7/29/2002 3:31:04 AM
From: D. Long	Respond to of 281500

I totally agree, Paul. Which makes it all the more galling when "certain" journalistic entities claim there is no bias, when clearly there is. At least be open about your biases, instead of attempting to hide it, and poo-pooing those that are honest and open about their political positions. Derek

To: paul_philp who wrote (35227)	7/29/2002 12:42:44 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The entire subject of media bias is a red herring. Exactly what does 'unbiased' reporting mean? Human beings don't do 'unbiased', we filter everything through our opinions and believes. We cannot even find a fact without using our filters. It is how we translate perceptions into understanding While I agree with you, it is possible to attempt to stick to the facts, though the mere act of deciding what is newsworthy must show up biases, unless the news provider and the audience are in perfect agreement as to what kind of story is newsworthy. The TV news and the New York Times used to do a better job of trying, in my opinion. Meantime, you just have to figure where each news source you read "is coming from." The continual claim of non-bias to an audience that can plainly see bias (like you and me -g-) is aggravating. If it's being made sincerely, one gets the definite impression that news anchors and producers are a rather parochial lot who don't spend much time talking to people who don't live in New York or Los Angeles. Strange thing to say about reporters, but there we are.

To: paul_philp who wrote (35227)	7/29/2002 2:31:50 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Paul, Let me disagree with this formulation. The effect of insisting that the goal of all media is a political one rather than a journalistic one is to hasten the creation of a terribly fragmented society, one in which if you are right wing you never read anything the lefties read and vice versa. That, in my view, leads to the old social terror of balkanization and to great difficulties for democracy. I continue to believe that democracy exists, at least at one of its four corners of support, on a vibrant civil society of discourse, in which folk read some of the same stuff, and can debate the issues without refusing to listen to someone who, on other issues, does not share one's political views. We do a reasonable job of such discussions on this thread. Not really a model; but I'm impressed that we keep plugging away. For me to quit listening to you because your economic views are somewhat different from mine, that is the result of the a completely politicized media.