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To: E. Charters who wrote (2657)	7/31/2002 11:19:49 AM
From: ralfph	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8273

The gold appears in a fast flowing section. What is weird is there is about a kilometer of calm water upstream from this spot. We always figured there was one hell of allot of gold sitting in the bottom of this calm water. The gold is flat , from real tiny to the size of an eraser head , the thickness will change from paper thin to about 1/16 of an inch. The fraser will change about 30 feet from high water to low. I have seen it suck a telephone log under and not let it pop up for at least a thousand feet. There is allot of ice action on it as well. I have picked up a finger nail sized nugget off the top of the gravel and moved 20 ton rocks on bed rock and found black sand like crazy, lots of nails and such, some little red gemstones and not one friggin flake . Thats what makes it fun. I would be upset if I was trying to make a living from it though. Always with humour ralfph

To: E. Charters who wrote (2657)	8/3/2002 3:14:19 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8273

Spring floods. Moves everything a tad and deposits it after a while. (why gold never exceeds its one season level of new deposit.) Also, although I discount it for everywhere but where the streams are frozen to the bottom generally, there is carbonic acid which dissolves and deposits gold around nuggets. (The dissolution process can be compared to aqua regia which dissolved gold by nitric, and complexes it by chloride, this accounts for the low solubility in one acid as the complexing removes it from solute, and allows the nitric to attack it "again". What complexing takes place for carbonic dissolution I am not sure, but if the precipitation was immediate, then the solution process could remove a fair amount of gold. Why it does not remove it from the nugget may be because of electrical processes, or because of transport from the solution area to a different condition precipitation area. Another idea to be studied is the fact that soils produce nitrates. These nitrates may attack surface ore, and the gold may be complexed somehow by chloride salts, (CaCl, NaCl, MgCl, KCl, HCl, FeCl ) precipitation or other (humic acid is known to attract metals by adsorption) complexing or just by removed by flow-past to provide the same effect. The removal is necessary to provide the conditions for continual dissolution due to the low KSP of gold in a mono solvent of nitrates, bromides or carbonic. But as I mentioned, there are many conditions which could effect the necessary complexing or removal of concentrated solute. Even SG separation of still pockets of solute, or electrical conditions due to the nature of the solute may be all that is necessary to allow continued dissolution. This freezing and solution/precipitation accounts for nugget growth which can be seen in rings in the nugget if sawn and examined by microscope. (H. Lovell) Nuggets left in Yukon placer streams will grow in size over time. Other nuggets have been seen to have core of other substances. EC<:-}