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To: Neeka who wrote (282382)	7/31/2002 5:12:16 PM
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To: Neeka who wrote (282382)	7/31/2002 10:09:17 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

>> I guess where I have a problem is that I am not convinced that America or its media are overwhelmingly run by Jews << well what kind of proof do you desire? the top three newspapers in america (NYT, Wash Post, Wall St Journal) are owned by jews. the top three magazines in america (time, newsweek, u.s. news & world report) are owned by jews. much of the television media is dominated by jews. hollywood is dominated by jews. jews are over-represented in government. 2 out of the 9 supreme court justices are jewish. 11 senators are jewish. jews have only about twice the representation in the house based on population, with i think 27 or so out of the 435 members. cabinet positions and security council positions and media pundits and advisors, etc they are heavily overrepresented. the clinton administration was dripping with jewish representation. secretary of state, treasury, labor, defense, agriculture, commerce, etc. of course in almost every case the jews on the court and in congress are liberal or democratic. >> or any other religious group or that agreeing with parts of any Jewish perspective is particularly anti-American << well obviously what is anti-american is in the eye of the beholder, so we would have to debate whether the jewish consensus that seems to emerge is anti-american or not. i would argue that certain aspects of it are. that's not to say that certain gentiles, or arabs, or hispanics, etc can't be anti-american either, but they simply do not hold the kind of power and influence that jews do, so it doesn't merit the same amount of attention. >> I haven't seen overwhelming evidence of this bias. Every American Jew that I know is extremely pro American and very patriotic. << well i would disagree, because i come from the conservative perspective, and 10 out of the 11 jewish senators are democrat, the two supreme court justices are liberal, and nearly all the jews in the house are democrats or liberal as well. i happen to think that many liberals and democrats are anti-american. >> You and I understand that there are American Jews and that those people have their bias just as every other group will have their bias. << right, i agree that every group has a bias. the thing is, jews have the power to exert that bias in a fashion that is not best for america. i won't hesitate to speak out against other groups that have sufficient power and are not acting in the best interests of america as well. the thing that makes the jewish question so interesting is how politically incorrect it is to address it. that is the greatest testament to its overwhelming power right there. >> I don't think you hear anyone call Jews anit-gentile because for he most part they aren't anti-gentile << well if jewish people were held to the same standards that so-called "anti-semites" are, then they would be called anti-american or anti-gentile. the simple truth is, no one dares day anything critical of jewish people in america. a few people have tried, and they were shouted down and marginalized. yet you notice america doesn't have a problem bashing catholics these days. america has no problem bashing the quran or muslims. you can say negative things about arabs or muslims or the quran on s.i. or even in the media with impunity. but even dare to say anything critical of israel or jews, and people go bananas. all sorts of attacks on america's principles and our historical founding are permitted, but israel does not get held up to the same standard. that is the hypocrisy that goes along with a media that is shaped by jewish influence at nearly every level.