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To: stomper who wrote (185086)	7/31/2002 6:49:58 PM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Respond to of 436258

nah just ........ give him a bit of priesthood. how's that?

To: stomper who wrote (185086)	8/12/2002 6:31:06 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 436258

<<? Gander would proabaly fling feces at his little Pope beanie, thingie>> Was he at youth day? The Star.com Businesses still search for answers after sewage spill Readers offer help to store owner who faces bankruptcy By Josipa Petrunic STAFF REPORTER Over the past two weeks, store owners at a north Toronto business complex have carted off more than 50 trailer-loads of dirty, soaked furniture, bailed out 36,000 litres of human feces and urine, and watched millions of dollars go down the drain. Some face bankruptcy. Others are looking at six months to a year before they can reopen. All are devastated by the flood of human waste that came from Downsview Park following last month's World Youth Day mass. And, still, they have no answers as to whom is responsible. "No one from the city has come down to talk to me. And we just don't know anything right now about who may be responsible for this," said Gerrit de Boer, who owns the complex and also the Idomo Furniture chain. He estimates more than $5 million in damage to his Idomo store at that location. Damage estimates for the entire complex are $10 million. But while de Boer and his fellow storeowners struggle to recover, many people are offering to help. Don Turner, a professor at Seneca College, offered free legal advice to help owners get compensation. Others, such as Carol Biberstein, are raising money on a personal level. "People are really moved by this," said Biberstein, who is raffling off a $250 painting of her own to raise money for one owner facing bankruptcy. She decided to raise money for Jack Herman, owner of Paragon Billiards, after reading about his situation in The Star. The article explained that a week after his mother died and his brother found out he had leukemia, Herman discovered his insurance company won't cover the sewage damage. "People are giving because it's something that happened to someone who didn't bring it upon himself," said Biberstein. "Here's a strong business person who's just trying to do the best that he can." Elaine Morgan felt the same way. After hearing about the disaster, she sent Herman a $100 cheque to help with his legal fees, writing: "The young people of the world conducted themselves with reverence, politeness and happiness, and it was never their intention to harm anyone, let alone their property or belongings." But Herman said he does not feel right about accepting personal donations. He plans to give the money to cancer research, in honour of his brother. Along with the other owners, Herman is considering a lawsuit in the hopes of saving his business. He has retained a lawyer and filed a notice of claim against the city. He expects to do the same for the other players involved, including World Youth Day and Downsview Park. Although workers traced the blockage July 29 to a city pipe located under Kodiak Cres., the city denies all fault. The city had approved three sewer hookups where companies hired by World Youth Day could empty more than 7,000 portable toilets at the end of the weekend event. City officials monitored those sites to make sure the dumping process was controlled and didn't overwhelm the sewer system, according to Mario Crognale, director of the wastewater department. However, there was a fourth connection site, located on Yukon Lane inside Downsview Park. Officials did not approve that site because it is not on city property. That land is owned by the federal defence department, which says it has contacted its own lawyers and is trying to figure out who allowed the disposal companies on to the site. thestar.ca