To: BigBull who wrote (35559 ) 7/31/2002 9:06:56 PM From: KLP Respond to of 281500 Thanks Big Bull~ Looked on C-Span for Transcripts, but none so far. It is interesting to see what papers quoted what from his testimony, however. I didn't include all the quotes from CNN or the WP, but there were very few to include. The NYTimes had many more...you were certainly right. Wonder who was the author of the article in the Times? From the Washington Post: #35533"I have seen no evidence of Iraq providing weapons of mass destruction to non-Iraqi terrorist groups," Richard Butler told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.Message 17820123 8888888888888888888888888888 From the CNN link: Reply #35553 Richard Butler refuted statements by Iraq that it has no weapons of mass destruction or the means to make such chemical, biological and nuclear weaponry."Everyone, Mr. Chairman, is being lied to," siliconinvestor.com 88888888888888888888888 From the NYTimes: From Big Bull: #35559 post: several quotes from Butler..."We do not know and never have known fully the quantity and quality of Iraq's WMD," the former inspector, Richard Butler of Australia, said "Its policies of concealment ensured that this was the case." "There are a number of deeply disturbing possibilities within Saddam's WMD program which need urgent attention," Mr. Butler went on. Among them, he said, are possibilities that Mr. Hussein might be trying to develop weapons that would use the smallpox virus. "There is a question as to why does Saddam want these diabolical weapons," Mr. Butler went on. In many respects, Mr. Butler said, "he's told us himself in his various outbursts: They make him strong. They help him stay in power at home. They help him fight his enemies outside Iraq." Mr. Hussein should recognize that using weapons of mass destruction, or even threatening to use them, against the United States or its allies "would bring a terrible response," Mr. Butler said. Yet, Mr. Butler went on, "he shows no sign of such intelligent judgment. And this is, perhaps, the ultimate pathology of the man." Mr. Butler said he has seen no evidence that Iraq has provided deadly weapons to non-Iraqi terrorists. "I suspect that, especially given his psychology and aspirations, Saddam would be reluctant to share with others what he believes to be an indelible source of his own power," Mr. Butler said."I think we've got to go a little further way if for no other reason than to make clear to the world that we went the full distance to get the law obeyed and arms control restored before taking other measures," Mr. Butler said."An ideal situation would be the resumption of arms control in Iraq, inspections and serious arms control," Mr. Butler said, but not if it means "the shell game ? phony inspections, more deceit, more concealment." If the United States ultimately decides to move against Mr. Hussein, "do it for the right reasons," Mr. Butler said. "Have this debate and make clear to the world what this is about. It is about weapons of mass destruction, but please do not leave out Saddam's hideous record, in terms of human rights violations."